Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby eddiea » December 19th 2016, 5:53pm

MKTheVintageBloke wrote:Second, the moderation there is at times absolutely oppressive.

Key words right there MKT, as a long standing WUS member (longer than here actually) my attitude about those sales "forums" is straightforward, they are not really "forums" and they are all about "sales"...
e.g. if I go to my local Rolex AD walk in and started to tell the sales associates that Rolex is an overpriced , marketing driven watch , sadly mostly seek for those that don't have a fucking clue about watches ? eventually the big, low IQ , motherfucker security guard will escort me to the door....
Same here , DOXA WUS is a virtual AD store with the sole purpose of selling a product for fuck sake....debating , resoning , common sense , watch knowledge arguments etc . don't apply here and so ....I don't.
Never had an issue at WUS, I don't really give a flying fuck about the forum politics, Mod's ego shit or behind the curtain shady deals. they have a lot of good dudes there with a vast knowledge about watches in particular and horology in general, thousands of excellent threads and posts, their Chinese Mechanical watches Forum, is probably the best in the web and of course is also plenty of idiots, trolls , posers and wannabes, like any other place in the internet (including here)
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby MKTheVintageBloke » December 19th 2016, 6:34pm

@koimaster: Dunno about TZ, tried to sign up there, but for whatever reason they didn't like me, and didn't let me in. I suppose if someone would start ranting against Timefactors there, he wouldn't last long. As to WTF, I've heard a few proper horror stories- guess they live up to their acronym.

@eddiea: Ummm, the Holy Book? There aren't much things I could call that, maybe spare for the Ranfft Movement Archive... Cushion, tonneau, all of that mixes up in 1960s design. In some cases, it's literally as complicated as the eternal dilemma of whether the glass is half-filled with water, or is it half-empty, depending on the approach. Sometimes the cynical approach works best, and that would be "fuck the glass."

The worst place on WUS, which I wholeheartedly encourage not to visit, is, most likely, the Omega Fake Busters sub-forum. Only a few people (me included) manage to still have the patience to stand what that place has turned into, and by Jove, it reeks like a fucking drain. Guess I cannot leave the clueless newbies without proper help (or at least my best attempt at it) provided, I'm a bit too much of a hopeless optimist to say "fuck it" and walk away, which would undoubtedly be healthier for me nerves.
The Public forum tends to get tense sometimes- you want to bash Invicta, because that shit should be called shit whenever it's being talked about, and out of nowhere spring out some pro-Invicta bushwhackers with whole display cases full of that blingy pile of bollocks, labelling you a troll, and all you wanted to do is warn someone not to buy a piece of shit, and advise the OP to buy (or to save up for) something better.

As to trolls, posers and idiots, that kind is everywhere, and although we can try keeping out the worst of their kind, that sort of people infests every forum. As they say, there's always the bad apples. While we would all enjoy an utopia without them, that vision suffers from what makes any utopia an impossibility, an idealist's mirage. WUS seems to think that the Orwell-esque concept of the Big Brother watching over everything, with the help of "dogs" straight out of Animal Farm, is the best way, but since I've seen that approach backfire rather miserably (bad apples kept as lapdogs), there's no doubt that it doesn't fucking work.
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby koimaster » December 20th 2016, 9:04am

I was banned at WUS because I discovered sponsors were being given moderator level access, which mean't they could see private subscriber account information. I approached management and was ignored, so I opened a discussion of the problem here at Watchlords. Ernie claimed I had breached privacy and banned me - the absolute ultimate in hypocrisy.

For a while even my name was deleted from all text on WUS...but since the Vertical Scope crowd have come in the 'bedlam' name is visible again.


Yep, at the doxa forum the sponsors or terrorists if you prefer run around like little hitlers. Wait? Isn't hitler banned at WUS?
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby MKTheVintageBloke » December 20th 2016, 11:40am

Well, WUS automatically censors out the word "Nazi", regardless of the context... Dunno if that's because of Cousteau and some people using him as a key figure in their advertising, could as well be. Anyway, food for thought.
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby bobbee » December 20th 2016, 12:28pm

It was pointed out to me by a long-time member (someone who I often conversed with via PM) at WUS, that he believed that moderators were reading PM messages of "turbulent" members.
His reasons were that comments made by certain mods on subjects that he knew he hadn't mentioned publicly raised his suspicions.
I don't know if it's true, but it would not surprise me in the least.
The fact that sponsors are given moderator-level access would make me leave as a matter of principal.
(Easy to say I suppose now I'm banned... ;))
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby koimaster » December 20th 2016, 1:28pm

bobbee wrote:It was pointed out to me by a long-time member (someone who I often conversed with via PM) at WUS, that he believed that moderators were reading PM messages of "turbulent" members.
His reasons were that comments made by certain mods on subjects that he knew he hadn't mentioned publicly raised his suspicions.
I don't know if it's true, but it would not surprise me in the least.
The fact that sponsors are given moderator-level access would make me leave as a matter of principal.
(Easy to say I suppose now I'm banned... ;))



There are hacks that can be installed such as those below -

https://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/store/p ... ned-users/

there are hacks as the grumpy user, there are others that allow PMs to be read by mods and admins. Watchgeeks and WUS are famous for them.
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby MKTheVintageBloke » December 20th 2016, 3:02pm

Mods lurking into PMs is one thing- I consider that an invasion of privacy, but that happens all too often these days. And is almost impossible to be fought against. Effectively, how does that look in terms of the law- dunno. Which law, for that matter, since it depends on where the servers are located.

The worse thing is mods who leak out PMs to third parties, and some evidence of that was present in the now-defunct Watch Talk Universe sewer of a forum - can't find the screenshot I've taken of that "shoutbox" they had in there, someone identifying himself as "WUS" admitted to having placed a ban because of the content of PMs! I wish I knew who that person is, but whoever steals personal communication and leaks it out to third parties is... Loss of words, really. "Common thief" would fit nicely, though.

I see WTU has been discussed here, so I will refrain from commenting on that topic any further, as it is well known what that website was, and therefore a topic dead and buried does not need my commentary.

I don't think I have ever lurked into Watchgeeks, not that I'd remember of. Is it one of the "better stay away" forums?
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby koimaster » December 20th 2016, 3:36pm

MKTheVintageBloke wrote:Mods lurking into PMs is one thing- I consider that an invasion of privacy, but that happens all too often these days. And is almost impossible to be fought against. Effectively, how does that look in terms of the law- dunno. Which law, for that matter, since it depends on where the servers are located.

The worse thing is mods who leak out PMs to third parties, and some evidence of that was present in the now-defunct Watch Talk Universe sewer of a forum - can't find the screenshot I've taken of that "shoutbox" they had in there, someone identifying himself as "WUS" admitted to having placed a ban because of the content of PMs! I wish I knew who that person is, but whoever steals personal communication and leaks it out to third parties is... Loss of words, really. "Common thief" would fit nicely, though.

I see WTU has been discussed here, so I will refrain from commenting on that topic any further, as it is well known what that website was, and therefore a topic dead and buried does not need my commentary.

I don't think I have ever lurked into Watchgeeks, not that I'd remember of. Is it one of the "better stay away" forums?



Watchgeeks is now dead, killed by Eyal Lalo of Invicta watch group aka marketing shit company in 2014. Turns out he could not control the content and he either suspected or knew there was going to an investigation into his company and lack of CS by the state of Florida. All those posts about shitty CS and outright fraud just went poof, except we have copies of them. :lol:

The watch talk universe is back under a different name. http://accutronfacts.freeforums.net/ The person known as horologist007 is still on Watch Talk forums. Not sure they know who he is. VBulletin forums have multiple hacks which allow you to read PMs. All of the forums owned by Vertical Scope use this Vbulletin.
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby conjurer » December 20th 2016, 3:38pm

MKTheVintageBloke wrote:Mods lurking into PMs is one thing- I consider that an invasion of privacy, but that happens all too often these days. And is almost impossible to be fought against. Effectively, how does that look in terms of the law- dunno. Which law, for that matter, since it depends on where the servers are located.

The worse thing is mods who leak out PMs to third parties, and some evidence of that was present in the now-defunct Watch Talk Universe sewer of a forum - can't find the screenshot I've taken of that "shoutbox" they had in there, someone identifying himself as "WUS" admitted to having placed a ban because of the content of PMs! I wish I knew who that person is, but whoever steals personal communication and leaks it out to third parties is... Loss of words, really. "Common thief" would fit nicely, though.

I see WTU has been discussed here, so I will refrain from commenting on that topic any further, as it is well known what that website was, and therefore a topic dead and buried does not need my commentary.

I don't think I have ever lurked into Watchgeeks, not that I'd remember of. Is it one of the "better stay away" forums?


Watchgeeks is dead and gone. When it was alive--if that's the right word, and I'm pretty sure it isn't--it was nothing but a sales forum for Invicters. There are plenty of fun threads about WGs to be found here.
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby eddiea » December 20th 2016, 4:54pm

bobbee wrote:It was pointed out to me by a long-time member (someone who I often conversed with via PM) at WUS, that he believed that moderators were reading PM messages of "turbulent" members.

Not here, although we do monitor Conjurer closely as he tend to get violent when he forget his medication and Mortus just because he's death (pretty unusual to have an active death member) and he's can be plain disturbing at times, to the extend of bragging about his Invicta Dan Divers collection.....
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby MKTheVintageBloke » December 20th 2016, 5:00pm

Well, then I didn't exactly lose anything by not having visited that forum... Still, two years ago I've been completely new to watch collecting, and largely unaware of the more or less major controversies, so likely I wouldn't have ventured there anyway.

Regarding Invicters, I sadly know the kind which likely would have frequented WGs- I see them from time to time in WUS Public Forum, where they're spewing crap about how they bought their Invictas because of their quality, and- behold!- their movements. That's usually followed by photos of their Subcrapqua and/or some of the most blatant Rolex Submariner and Explorer II knock-offs that I know of, with only Steinhart getting even close to copying someone else's designs so blatantly (and without any major changes to the design that's being knocked off).

As to the "reborn" WTU, that counterfeiter starting a new forum was only a matter of time.
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby bobbee » December 21st 2016, 12:54am

The person known as horologist007 is still on Watch Talk forums. Not sure they know who he is.


They know who he is.
He was banned for life twice under the user names "NAWCC" and "GLADIATOR" at WTF, but was allowed back because of his new-found fame as the NAWCC's new "expert" on fake watches, and is running an expensive seminar/course on the subject.
Although other members weren't quite so sure about him, and his reluctance to answer questions about the course put many off.
Here are two threads that show his reluctance and are great reads, and an ex-mod really sticks it to him at the end of the second thread.

http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/ ... 13505.html

http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/ ... 13705.html
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby svaglic » March 3rd 2019, 10:53am

Just another site and profession that is wrong, because Doxa wouldn’t lie to us.

http://www.uwphotographyguide.com/under ... ndamentals

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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby tomsimac » March 12th 2019, 7:41pm

The current owner was a mod when he banned me for saying 1/2 of the people on WUS were below average. He, Sgt Major himself said I was being uppity
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby Rusty » March 12th 2019, 7:50pm

That guy is an asshole.
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby bedlam » March 12th 2019, 9:11pm

Rusty wrote:That guy is an asshole.

Ass doesn't even begin to cover the level of hole that guy is. :mrgreen:
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Re: Getting banned by the doxa mod at WUS

Postby conjurer » March 12th 2019, 9:57pm

bedlam wrote:
Rusty wrote:That guy is an asshole.

Ass doesn't even begin to cover the level of hole that guy is. :mrgreen:


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