Invicta/Glycine Airman Base 22 Watch $650

Invicta/Glycine Airman Base 22 Watch $650

Postby koimaster » June 13th 2018, 8:49am

Glycine’s 24-hour Airman is an icon of the watch community. Originally designed for pilots, it’s found a wider audience since its release in the 1950s, not only for its unique design—the dial is numbered 1 through 24, with the 12th numeral at the 6 o’clock position—but also for its ability to display second and third time zones. Plus, the dial has that simple aesthetic that has long proven popular among enthusiasts. Nearly identical to the Old Airman, as the original is called, the Airman Base 22 was released in 2010.

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Re: Invicta/Glycine Airman Base 22 Watch $650

Postby conjurer » June 13th 2018, 9:07am

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I checked you out, and I now want you to take the journey to lick my taint. It's small, but vast.


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Re: Invicta/Glycine Airman Base 22 Watch $650

Postby Pubbie » June 13th 2018, 11:06am

Nice but it’s not an “Invicta/Glycine” any more than a Black Bay is a “Rolex/Tudor” or a Speedmaster is a “Swatch/Omega”, to use a couple of Internet darlings for comparison!

As Invicta, peddler of horrid watches though it is, hasn’t fucked Glycine in the ass quite as hard as some feared - or possibly wanted, in order to prove a point - I think it’s safe to view this watch in the same light as one could before that fateful day in August 2016. In other words, as a watch, not a WaRtch.

A shame they persist with the hard price dumping. These prices are below the wholesale price per-acquisition and the vicious discounting has done the company no favours at all. The Airman is a fine watch, and mine kicks rancid Swiss-Made bottom.
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Re: Invicta/Glycine Airman Base 22 Watch $650

Postby koimaster » June 13th 2018, 11:29am

Pubbie wrote:Nice but it’s not an “Invicta/Glycine” any more than a Black Bay is a “Rolex/Tudor” or a Speedmaster is a “Swatch/Omega”, to use a couple of Internet darlings for comparison!

As Invicta, peddler of horrid watches though it is, hasn’t fucked Glycine in the ass quite as hard as some feared - or possibly wanted, in order to prove a point - I think it’s safe to view this watch in the same light as one could before that fateful day in August 2016. In other words, as a watch, not a WaRtch.

A shame they persist with the hard price dumping. These prices are below the wholesale price per-acquisition and the vicious discounting has done the company no favours at all. The Airman is a fine watch, and mine kicks rancid Swiss-Made bottom.


The new glycine has a SW300, the pre-invicta ones had the GL293 which is a modified ETA 2893 if I remember correctly.
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Re: Invicta/Glycine Airman Base 22 Watch $650

Postby TemerityB » June 14th 2018, 8:04pm

Pubbie wrote:Nice but it’s not an “Invicta/Glycine” any more than a Black Bay is a “Rolex/Tudor” or a Speedmaster is a “Swatch/Omega”, to use a couple of Internet darlings for comparison!

As Invicta, peddler of horrid watches though it is, hasn’t fucked Glycine in the ass quite as hard as some feared - or possibly wanted, in order to prove a point - I think it’s safe to view this watch in the same light as one could before that fateful day in August 2016. In other words, as a watch, not a WaRtch.

A shame they persist with the hard price dumping. These prices are below the wholesale price per-acquisition and the vicious discounting has done the company no favours at all. The Airman is a fine watch, and mine kicks rancid Swiss-Made bottom.


You made valid and reasoned points here. Glycine has been a favorite with a lot of watch site contributors for years, and those who picked them up really love them; the classic cult following.

But, man - its the taint. Eyal Lalo and Invicta, who have lied and non-QCed their way to prominence in the sleaziest of all possible ways, now have ownership of Glycine. And even in Invicta's best days and/or acceptable watches, they've always found ways to cut corners: Putting cheaper auto movements in their faux Rolex divers; hollowing out links; bands that disintegrate upon, well, just looking at them; you likely know the drill.

I know you are 100 percent right, pub, no question about it ... but it's the taint. After seeing the low lengths that Lalo and his decrepit shills have gone to separate people from good money, I wouldn't give a dime for a Glycine even if I found new ones for $49. It's all a matter of principle for some of us, and I know it's probably my loss - but I have to draw a line somewhere.
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Re: Invicta/Glycine Airman Base 22 Watch $650

Postby Hawk » June 14th 2018, 10:15pm

It might also be noted that Heromex had picked up Glycine in their advertisements of brands they supplied.

I don't offhand know if Glycine was using Hong Kong parts other than the movement before the acquisition but it's fair to assume they are now. Swiss movement cased in Switzerland still qualifies as a Swiss watch and in a case of mathematical irony they would now have less of a problem in meeting the percentage value requirements as a box full of random Chinese parts probably doesn't amount to much on a cost / percentage basis. It's conceivable that the aggresive pricing on Glycine is at least partially connected to the ancillary parts now amounting to piffle cost-wise.

All it takes is to strike a deal with a Swiss movement manufacturer to case up a product in OEM supplied parts and voila:

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I'm guessing it's Swiss Made per the current regs. The bottom line is that "Swiss Made" now means less than "Made in Japan" or Germany or, in some cases, Beijing and Tianjin. Historically speaking USCBP's regs on country of origin marking are from a day long ago when the Swiss were dumping enough junk stateside to spin up the domestic manufacturers who petitioned for relief. Now in 2018 and due in no small part to Eyal we are coming full circle to where we'll eventually describe our watches as swiss made in a manner which implies we're ashamed of it.

But I suppose with movement and casing Swiss labor not having enough work to distract from internet porn that some would be well served to do work they might have previously been too busy to consider.

It's probably debatable if Eyal fucked over Glycine's reputation to the extent he's fucking over "Swiss Made" in general. Eyal can drive container after container through a loophole the size of a pea.
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Re: Invicta/Glycine Airman Base 22 Watch $650

Postby codguy » June 15th 2018, 4:24am

TemerityB wrote:
Pubbie wrote:

But, man - its the taint.


Yep, hard to get the taste out of ones mouth after spending good money on something nice only to watch (no pun intended) a train wreck!

Happens to all of us. Been a PCA member for over 30 years and am a Porsche fanboi........................... well was until they produced a four door "911"
The terrible taste of taint is indeed bad.

Oh, and don't get me started on 24 hour markings.

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