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AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evenin

Postby AlbertaTime » April 5th 2013, 8:04am

If you missed part 1 (the morning and afternoon of the day of this event I'm about to describe) go here.

Onward...

I owe very special thanks to Mr. Cheng of the Chinese watch site Yiwatch. Mr. Cheng was kind enough to make the arrangements for this heartwarming "greet the foreign visitor" VCM Dinner that very appropriately highlighted the achievements of the Shanghai Watch Factory in the 1950s and 1960s. I have no sufficient words to express my gratitude for his efforts.

I owe many thanks as well to all who attended as I was shown superb hospitality and friendship by everyone. I had a great time over nicely strong rice wine, very good Chinese beer :-) and lots of excellent food, most of which I'd never tasted before ;-), and reports on Yiwatch suggest the fun and friendship was shared :-)

I am honoured to introduce the guests that assembled at the event:

Back row from right to left:

  • Mr Cheng, the webmaster of China's yiwatch.net and camgle.com (a watch and camera site, well known in China);
  • Mr Zhu, webmaster of the Chinese watch forum at www.watchstore.cn which has a popular forum area.;
  • Mr Shao, also webmaster of the Chinese watch forum: yiwatch.net, and the very experienced VCM collectors:
  • Mr Liang,
  • Mr Xia,
  • Mr Sun.

Front row from right to left:

  • Mr Jiang Qing, Designer of the Shanghai Watch Factory SS1A movement (1966);
  • Mr Tong QinFen, former Production Team member for the A581 movement (1955) as well as the former vice chief engineer of Xian HongQi Watch Factory and the former Senior Engineer at Shanghai Watch Factory;
  • me; and
  • Mr. Joel Chan of the Micmicmor Vintage Watch website.

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And here are some other "special guests" at the table, most I never thought I'd ever see in person, let alone touch....

...a very rare 24 jewel non-diver military issue Shanghai...

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...a very rare 17 jewel Shanghai watch, marked for military use...

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...a rare 24 jewel miltary diver...

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...followed by an even rarer 29 jewel version...

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...and a very rare ZuanShi SMI with date complication...

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...an original and rare "panda" 581....

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...a stunningly rare 1950s Dong Fang Hong "East is Red"...

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...followed by an equally stunning and rare 1950s He Ping "Peace"...

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...an uncommon "sitting" XiongMao...

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...an original 1960s Chinese Air Force chronograph (note the sub-dial hands with no "tail", just to muddy the details of the controversy about which side "properly" has the tail ;-)...

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...and rarest of all:a Shanghai 24 jewel automatic with date. I very graciously received special permission from the owner to show this watch as Joel noted that it really hasn't yet been seen in this detail even on a Chinese website.

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I also want to note that the AMCHPR was gifted at the Dinner with 10 quite hard to find vintage Chinese mechanical watches (no, none of those), plus a set of beautiful Zhongshan dials as well as some scholarly research papers that will need to be translated before I can post them at the AMCHPR...but I'm a shameless tease, so that's for a future installment :-)

...and here's the translation of the Yiwatch report of the event:

yiwatch.net/thread-105761-1-1.html - Translator
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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby Horse Feathers » April 5th 2013, 8:25am

Guys looking at real watches and eating real food (no sammich wrappers or moon over my hammys)

Seems the museum made out well
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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby foghorn » April 5th 2013, 11:52am

Please explain Santa Claus in the window.
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Why, he's no fun, he fell right over.
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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby AlbertaTime » April 5th 2013, 3:30pm

foghorn wrote:Please explain Santa Claus in the window.


These days Santa is a well known figure in world folklore?? Image

...I don't exactly understand either, but I thought it was wonderful :-)
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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby Horse Feathers » April 5th 2013, 3:43pm

This 60's one looks somewhat familiar

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My early late 40's early 50's Gallet

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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby AlbertaTime » April 5th 2013, 3:56pm

The Chinese air force chrono is built around --- or kind of *is* --- a Venus 175.

In the early 1960s, Tianjin Watch Factory purchased the entire Venus 175 production machinery, blueprints...the whole shebang, and had it all shipped to Tianjin, and then had Venus train Tianjin production personnel as well.
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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby Horse Feathers » April 5th 2013, 4:00pm

AlbertaTime wrote:The Chinese air force chrono is built around --- or kind of *is* --- a Venus 175.

In the early 1960s, Tianjin Watch Factory purchased the entire Venus 175 production machinery, blueprints...the whole shebang, and had it all shipped to Tianjin, and then had Venus train Tianjin production personnel as well.


No argument, you are the expert. When I saw that watch it just looked familiar to me.
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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby wottime » April 5th 2013, 5:00pm

Great pics. Very cool experience. I would be very humbled. Great watches, you can see the history and character in them.
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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby AlbertaTime » April 5th 2013, 6:49pm

Horse Feathers wrote:
AlbertaTime wrote:The Chinese air force chrono is built around --- or kind of *is* --- a Venus 175.

In the early 1960s, Tianjin Watch Factory purchased the entire Venus 175 production machinery, blueprints...the whole shebang, and had it all shipped to Tianjin, and then had Venus train Tianjin production personnel as well.


No argument, you are the expert. When I saw that watch it just looked familiar to me.


Chrono design was quite standardized from the 1940s and on as far as I can tell. A google image search for 1940s or 1950s chronograph will turn up huge amounts of often similar -- and often gorgeous --- eye-candy chronos, like Chronographe Suisse for example, or (like yours) Gallet :-)
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Re: AlbertaTime returns to China. Post #2 - the wonderful evening of April 4th in Shanghai

Postby conjurer » April 5th 2013, 10:07pm

Goddamn it, A-T, I love these posts of yours. It's always great to see WISs of all nations getting together to break bread and talk watches.

The Santa thing in the window kind of creeped me out a bit, though.
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