Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

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Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Purplepc » March 9th 2011, 6:33am

Today, 01:36 PM

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Clarifications and Updates to the NEW SII Caliber NE78A:

The movement has a 28,800 VPH Frequency, same as the Valjoux 7750 and not 36,000, we will adjust all Specs relating to this movement. All NE78A calibers are made in JAPAN. This caliber does have a 45 hour power reserve. The watch (mainspring) is fully wound by turning the crown 55 times. If you plan to use a watch winder for this model, the rotary speed can be set at 30rpm, and will be fully charged within 60 minutes. Watch does contain 34 Jewels.

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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby JtN© » March 9th 2011, 6:37am

Just simply amazing, yet another thing the Geeks will openly accept as an honest mistake.

Ya know this brings something else to mind about Invicta and there also latest releases of the SW500 movement along with the SII NE78A. They played it as they were somebody big and special in the industry because they were the first to use and release these movements but they never told anyone that many will be displaying watches with those movements in them at Basel but ... Invicta was first with the NH78A and they were totally wrong in the specs. I wonder what is wrong with the SW500 they have yet to tell anyone about.

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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Guest » March 9th 2011, 6:41am

JtN© wrote:Just simply amazing, yet another thing the Geeks will openly accept as an honest mistake.




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That's cool. Thanks for the update.
Where did the confusion of 36,000 VPH originate anyway?
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Thanks Eyal that clears things up a bit. Is there a reason why the chrono hand mimmicks a quartz? Thanks.
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Thanks for the informative update re: the NEW SII Caliber NE78A movement. Have a good one.
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Wow bpm r the same as Val 7750. But the price is certainly less

I can live with that
I'm n now on the 2 tone
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Thanks for the update, Eyal!


More slurping to come...
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Seattle » March 9th 2011, 6:47am

Thanks for the update? Are fucking kidding me???
How 'bout, thanks for another fucking lie you piece of shit!!! People bought that fuck stick watch because of the original information you provided. Are you going to refund anyone's money "Lie-low"?
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Hawk » March 9th 2011, 6:51am

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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Guest » March 9th 2011, 7:04am

Too bad one of those top 10% master mechanics didn't bother to regulate a single one of these movements, that would have revealed the true frequency.

Another bit of evidence that these watches are nothing but off the shelf parts kits.
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Postby Mark » March 9th 2011, 7:15am

it's a piece of shit movement anyway. Don't care if it is Japanese made or not.
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby JtN© » March 9th 2011, 7:36am

So in all reality the NE78A movement is a Japanese made clone of a ETA/Valjoux 7750 and the SW500 is a Swiss Selita made clone of the ETA/Valjoux 7750 so in reality ... the movements are nothing more than copied clones.
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Falstaff » March 9th 2011, 7:46am

Hawk wrote:
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Calcifications? That means that this time, for sure, the specs are "set in stone".
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby TemerityB » March 9th 2011, 7:48am

JtN,

Agreed. Remember MD thumping his chest over the 35,454th version of a Lupah with the SW500 in it? That's not ETA, son, that's a fucking cheaper movement, you low rent shill. And their movements are getting cheesier by the moment, because they're gonna do the on-air con job that buying something lesser is somehow just as good. I bet in the future the only Etta associated with IWG will be if Ms. James sports an ugly watch while crooning "At Last."

Remember that, little WGs, and repeat this after me: Buying an IWG product is settling for something that's not as good. Always has been, always will be. But a-wipes who wear 65mm monstrosities sold by the pound don't have the acumen to think in those terms in the first place.

As for the rest of the free world, well, just picture Mr. 85mm or Chiefola wearing a fucking Sea Hunter and then decide if those are the looks you wanna emulate.

Thought so.
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby eddiea » March 9th 2011, 7:54am

Eyal, is never "clean", he bathes in mud.
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Guest » March 9th 2011, 8:12am

I hear the sound of gently scrubbing extraordinary claims from video...
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Postby koimaster » March 9th 2011, 8:13am

kmt wrote:I hear the sound of gently scrubbing extraordinary claims from video...



well then, we need to copy them and put them in our greatest hits files.
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby koimaster » March 9th 2011, 8:32am

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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Guest » March 9th 2011, 8:36am

Is that a cornograph movement?
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Postby Watch Noob » March 9th 2011, 8:40am

36,000, 28,800 bpm, who really cares? I'm just happy that Invicta is giving us this great opportunity to purchase this awesome movement at a ridiculously low price. Great job Eyal.
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby WatchDorks.Net » March 9th 2011, 8:44am

Watch Noob wrote:36,000, 28,800 bpm, who really cares? I'm just happy that Invicta is giving us this great opportunity to purchase this awesome movement at a ridiculously low price. Great job Eyal.


So tell us: Does Eyal's butthole really taste like Panamanian Swiss rice?
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby koimaster » March 9th 2011, 8:59am

kmt wrote:
Today, 01:36 PM

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Clarifications and Updates to the NEW SII Caliber NE78A:

The movement has a 28,800 VPH Frequency, same as the Valjoux 7750 and not 36,000, we will adjust all Specs relating to this movement. All NE78A calibers are made in JAPAN. This caliber does have a 45 hour power reserve. The watch (mainspring) is fully wound by turning the crown 55 times. If you plan to use a watch winder for this model, the rotary speed can be set at 30rpm, and will be fully charged within 60 minutes. Watch does contain 34 Jewels.

Thank you, Team Invicta





From Seiko which is what I posted once before. But assembly is not in Japan, it is China or Malaysia. Also this is an OEM movement made for customers, not a standard movement according to all of the responses I received from both Seiko and SII

all parts of our mechanical movements, including mainsprings and hairsprings, are produced in-house in the SII facilities.

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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby OTMF » March 9th 2011, 9:14am

The selling point was the 36,000 vbh.
TimTemple wrote:I think must be credited to the engine that you guys chose,
and specifically the vibrations that literally that this (watch) has.

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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby koimaster » March 9th 2011, 9:35am

OTMF wrote:The selling point was the 36,000 vbh.
TimTemple wrote:I think must be credited to the engine that you guys chose,
and specifically the vibrations that literally that this (watch) has.




vbh...... Is that value bites hourly? or very badly handled
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby OTMF » March 9th 2011, 9:37am

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I've been making more and more typo's lately, sorry.
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby TRU-LYE » March 9th 2011, 9:51am

WatchDorks.Net wrote:
Watch Noob wrote:36,000, 28,800 bpm, who really cares? I'm just happy that Invicta is giving us this great opportunity to purchase this awesome movement at a ridiculously low price. Great job Eyal.


So tell us: Does Eyal's butthole really taste like Panamanian Swiss rice?
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby Watch Noob » March 9th 2011, 10:35am

You guys are just Haterz. You need to start recognizing that Invicta is a force to be reckoned with. Eyal is a Horological genius, and Davis is the techinical guru that blends it all together. The bottom line is that true WIS don't care whether it's 28,800 vph or 36,000, they know Invicta is solid with their extended warranty coupled with their outstanding CS is a no brainer.
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Re: Eyal comes clean on the NE78A Bait and Switch Scam

Postby conjurer » March 9th 2011, 10:45am

The really astounding thing is that nobody's going to give a shit about this except--well, us.
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Postby iwasbanned » March 9th 2011, 11:10am

I don't care where its made or that it keeps time. If it sings to me I buy it.
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