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Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 8:38am
by koimaster
Item - Watch Dial

One Invicta watch dial. The dial is black in color, measures approximately 36.60 mm in diameter and 0.35 mm in depth. The dial material consists of synthetic materials, quartz & a polymer composite with metallic flakes. Due to the heavy polymer a refractive index is not available.


Please note the description by Invicta is Sandstone enhanced with goldstone. Goldstone is glass not polymer. For those who a naysayers and will be running to tell JS, the legal department of Shopnbc has been provided this document already.


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The report with the letter head will be uploaded later today or tomorrow.


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As a follow up I asked Linda at Pacific Labs to clarify for me.

Hi Alain,
The dial is a mix of particles in synthetic quartz. Sandstone is not a synthetic and does not come in a black color. It does not contain the metallic flakes that are present in this dial. If a stone is synthetic, it is man-made and cannot be called natural. Many crystals are referred to as “Sapphire”, but they are also synthetic. Also, Sandstone is an amalgam and is not hard enough on its own to form the dial. Does this help?

Linda

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 8:47am
by mrneddles
I think I can almost hear the loud conversations.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 9:46am
by TVDinner
I would say they need to change their marketing materials, lol

Not sure what you would call these dials now?

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 9:49am
by Seattle
RESERVE?

TVDinner wrote:I would say they need to change their marketing materials, lol

Not sure what you would call these dials now?

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 9:51am
by Mark1
Damn Chinese, not building the watches to Eyals exacting specs. Remember, "no one is lying to sell you a watch."

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 9:58am
by TVDinner
Seattle wrote:RESERVE?

TVDinner wrote:I would say they need to change their marketing materials, lol

Not sure what you would call these dials now?


lol - now that is funny.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 10:00am
by Seattle
I have my moments James...:jump:

TVDinner wrote:
Seattle wrote:RESERVE?

TVDinner wrote:I would say they need to change their marketing materials, lol

Not sure what you would call these dials now?


lol - now that is funny.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 10:04am
by koimaster
Mark1 wrote:Damn Chinese, not building the watches to Eyals exacting specs. Remember, "no one is lying to sell you a watch."



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Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 10:16am
by TRU-LYE
i wonder how this will play out in geekland?? nevermind we already know..

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 10:27am
by poot74
No...that's from a bad batch of "sandstone" dials that came from another supplier he had no control over but specified genuine sandstone...but all the rest are genuine sandstone dials...right now he's having loud conversations with that supplier...

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 10:28am
by JtN©
Invicta should be made to pay for a 30 second blurb at the top of and at the 1/2 of every hour during each watch show, whether it is an Invicta show or not for the next 30 days on there misrepresented watch and offer full refunds to include all shipping and handling charges to and from ShopNBC for any and all customers who want a refund.

Ya know its not only the recent offerings but this goes back to almost a year ago with that special Lupah that flopped for them.

It also makes me wonder if any of the meteorite dials are legitimate or not.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 10:32am
by JtN©
I would bet it never makes it to GeekLand.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 11:07am
by svaglic
The management at the schizophrenic Disney Land isn't going to like this.
This is sad, they had a chance to come clean and they didn't. They completely brought this upon them selves but will blame the "hater" sites on their fourm. The sheep will continue to follow them over the cliff.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 11:10am
by eddiea
What can I say?

Merry Christmas IWG....... Image

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 11:12am
by TemerityB
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

You can lead a WG to indisputable facts, but you can't make it think.

As satisfying as it is to read IWG's latest out-and-out lie, it's in no way surprising. Not in the least; it's like a blaring headline that Pamela Anderson had breast augmentation surgery. Ain't no shocker.

Thanks, koi, as always. And to the others here for busting open watches they paid good, hard-earned money for just to get to the truth.

The truth, you know, the stuff you never seem to hear when an IWG "timepiece" is presented on TV.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 2:38pm
by bigedsurf
it more than helps.........

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 2:48pm
by DX
Refunds for all who got lied to?

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 2:53pm
by boscoe
All Invictoids, drop drawers for a most excellent buggering. Line forms on the right.
Act now!

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 2:57pm
by Watch Noob
Stamped Polypro with a metal flake mixture suspended in the resin or colorant. Who would of guessed? I'll have to ask my friends at Dow and BASF if they produce this mixture for anyone in China. If it's real metal flake, they may use a blowing agent like Nitrogen to keep it suspended in the mixture or gas assist in the Barrel.

Alain, did she tell you what type of resin was used? e.g. Polypro, Polyolefin, ABS, Polycarb, etc?

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 3:04pm
by andrema
That whole watch is a lie...too funny!!

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 3:06pm
by DIAMANTE
DX wrote:Refunds for all who got lied to?


I would venture to say that those who bought these watches are probably happy with them and don't want a refund - even if they know deep down inside they got hosed. LOL!

D

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 3:18pm
by TVDinner
The real problem is all the many people not on any forums who just purchased it for a gift and then told the receiver about the top quality sandstone dial watch they were given. They will never see or learn about this stuff. Sad.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 3:21pm
by Seattle
Exactly....but even more frustrating is when you tell people the truth and they respond with anger and insecurity.
Probably a good time to hit the bottle and repeat, it isn't so, it isn't so.

CJ


TVDinner wrote:The real problem is all the many people not on any forums who just purchased it for a gift and then told the receiver about the top quality sandstone they received. They will never see or learn about this stuff. Sad.

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 3:31pm
by koimaster
Watch Noob wrote:Stamped Polypro with a metal flake mixture suspended in the resin or colorant. Who would of guessed? I'll have to ask my friends at Dow and BASF if they produce this mixture for anyone in China. If it's real metal flake, they may use a blowing agent like Nitrogen to keep it suspended in the mixture or gas assist in the Barrel.

Alain, did she tell you what type of resin was used? e.g. Polypro, Polyolefin, ABS, Polycarb, etc?


I did not ask but I will send her an email to see if they know or can make an educated guess

Re: Invicta Sandstone Dial Report

PostPosted: December 20th 2010, 3:57pm
by Bigjimzlll
Watch Noob wrote:Stamped Polypro with a metal flake mixture suspended in the resin or colorant. Who would of guessed? I'll have to ask my friends at Dow and BASF if they produce this mixture for anyone in China. If it's real metal flake, they may use a blowing agent like Nitrogen to keep it suspended in the mixture or gas assist in the Barrel.

Alain, did she tell you what type of resin was used? e.g. Polypro, Polyolefin, ABS, Polycarb, etc?


Probably melted down all of toys that contained lead that were recalled.