Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Standards

Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Standards

Postby Racer-X » July 14th 2018, 2:36am

"Though it’s typically easy enough for a collector to differentiate between various categories of watches, sussing out the technical definition of each of these categories is admittedly a more involved process. What precisely constitutes a dive watch, or a pilot’s watch? Is there a particular water resistance that must be met if a watch is meant to be used underwater, or a specific altitude or barometric pressure at which a pilot’s watch must be able to operate?

The International Organization for Standardization provides some help in answering these questions. ISO (which is not an acronym, but derived from the Greek isos, meaning “equal”) is an international body comprised of representatives from various national standards organizations whose purpose is to set international standards and guidelines for products and services. There are 162 member countries and funding is provided through a combination of organizations that manage specific products, subscriptions from member bodies, and the sale of standards."

http://wornandwound.com/making-a-tool-watch-a-basic-guide-to-iso-din-and-related-industry-standards/
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby biglove » July 14th 2018, 9:53am

Good nerdy read. Enjoyed it.
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby bedlam » July 14th 2018, 10:58pm

ROFL. The divers ISO doesn't say what W&W said.

W&W can't bring themselves to quote the ISO accurately in a story on the ISO. Cos if they did all their Submariner fanboi readers heads would explode.

Absolutely hilarious.
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby bedlam » July 14th 2018, 11:17pm

Posted on W&W comments:

Why have you misquoted the ISO 6425 for dive watches?

The current ISO says "The presence of a time-preselecting device, for example a unidirectional rotating bezel or a digital display. Such a device shall be protected against inadvertent rotation or wrong manipulation. If it is a rotating bezel, IT SHALL HAVE A MINUTE SCALE GOING UP TO 60 MIN. The markings indicating every 5 min shall be clearly indicated..."

Many watches described as dive watches only have the minute scale going to 15-20 mins and the 5 min markers clearly indicated. This makes sense in a Submariner as it is an iconic design that long predates the ISO, but there is no excuse for recent watch designs. Micro watch makers often copy the Submariner bezel rather than the Sea Dweller's ISO compliant design. I assume mistakes in ISO compliance in dive watches are mostly ignorance of the ISO requirements, but I'm not sure why W&W would fall into the same mistake.

Did you not read the current ISO before writing the article?


We will see if it gets published.
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby bedlam » July 14th 2018, 11:25pm

Ha, ha. As I thought, they have already deleted the comment.
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby koimaster » July 15th 2018, 12:24am

I copied your post and posted it again. Awaiting moderation.
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby bedlam » July 15th 2018, 12:55am

koimaster wrote:I copied your post and posted it again. Awaiting moderation.

As expected it never appeared.
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby bedlam » July 15th 2018, 7:01pm

Worn & Wound have now updated the article.

Good on them :-)
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby Racer-X » July 15th 2018, 7:57pm

Koi's comment is there as well.
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Re: Making a Tool Watch: A Basic Guide to ISO, DIN and Stand

Postby bedlam » July 16th 2018, 1:34am

Racer-X wrote:Koi's comment is there as well.

Which is surprising. I posted a positive comment since they changed the info and that hasn't popped up. I might have got myself banned :-)
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