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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby bedlam » October 1st 2017, 4:58pm

foghorn wrote:Spanky's a troll,pure and simple. The only time he offers anything of an horological nature is when he is called out for seldom doing so.
After a few watch related posts he goes right back to Dotardisms.

Yup. Koi was seeing things clearly when he banned him previously, I wasn't keen on the process at the time though.

That said, if all he ever does is troll then he is not a contributing member and there is no reason to keep him.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby jaw » October 1st 2017, 5:28pm

bedlam wrote:
foghorn wrote:Spanky's a troll,pure and simple. The only time he offers anything of an horological nature is when he is called out for seldom doing so.
After a few watch related posts he goes right back to Dotardisms.

Yup. Koi was seeing things clearly when he banned him previously, I wasn't keen on the process at the time though.

That said, if all he ever does is troll then he is not a contributing member and there is no reason to keep him.


Yeah, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt at that time as well. But he's made his true motives crystal clear since then. The Michelle+Gorilla put me over the top. So I repeat...Fuck spanky1, 2, and 3. The link below is where he stores his memes. If that ain't a troll hoard I don't know what is. 16 pages of the shit. 935 in total would make a decent little porn collection - must be like porn to him. So he's got plenty to go round - Quite the collection there uh...Ronnie. WARNING: Show All is a modem killer.

Here's a screen capture from it http://rgray.zenfolio.com/p999233317

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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby spanky1 » October 1st 2017, 5:52pm

Just exercising my first amendment rights like the NFL players. If my avatar collection offends you feel free to BAN ME FROM W.L.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby bedlam » October 1st 2017, 6:30pm

spanky1 wrote:Just exercising my first amendment rights like the NFL players. If my avatar collection offends you feel free to BAN ME FROM W.L.

Or you could focus more on watch related contributions, then there would be no need.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby spanky1 » October 1st 2017, 6:33pm

bedlam you know you want too. Just pull the trigger and alleviate the pain in your ass.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby svaglic » October 1st 2017, 7:04pm

bedlam wrote:
spanky1 wrote:Just exercising my first amendment rights like the NFL players. If my avatar collection offends you feel free to BAN ME FROM W.L.

Or you could focus more on watch related contributions, then there would be no need.


It doesn't matter if Spanky puts more focus on watch related contributions or not. He will be harangued by some people here until he just doesn't participate anymore. Just like ChronoMatt. Matt wasn't racist, but people here said he was and he was hassled until he just quit participating. Look at the contributions he made in his threads and posts, it didn't matter, once he had an opinion that didn't match up with the majority he was singled out.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby tiktok » October 1st 2017, 7:42pm

Spunky is racist.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby Hawk » October 1st 2017, 7:57pm

svaglic wrote:
bedlam wrote:
spanky1 wrote:Just exercising my first amendment rights like the NFL players. If my avatar collection offends you feel free to BAN ME FROM W.L.

Or you could focus more on watch related contributions, then there would be no need.


It doesn't matter if Spanky puts more focus on watch related contributions or not. He will be harangued by some people here until he just doesn't participate anymore. Just like ChronoMatt. Matt wasn't racist, but people here said he was and he was hassled until he just quit participating. Look at the contributions he made in his threads and posts, it didn't matter, once he had an opinion that didn't match up with the majority he was singled out.
That's just how it is here.


It should be noted that watch related content would technically be off-topic in a thread whose primary thrust is about kneeling football players anyway.

I rather miss old Matt myself but would have to admit that I thought the "lip plate" thing was over the top. As I recall he retaliated by accusing me of yellow fever to which I pled guilty - there being no point whatsoever in denying it. Ordinarily we'd have brushed it off after that but it ended in a manner I did not expect.

A WL banning is rather of a special thing generally requiring some form of pineapple or degenerative disease to be wished on family members. He's well clear of that sort of thing. Rather like my opinion of Matt I would hesitate to confuse insensitivity with racism. At least I wouldn't - anyone else may of course do or believe as they please. There's also a difference between evidence and proof but I digress.

Mostly though I would miss some of his links which can prove pretty entertaining. I am consistently amused to discover how stupid people are allowed to write for online publications. Granted the champion has been Occupy Democrats in the dumb-ass assertion department when they forgot (or didn't know) Russia was an ally in WW2. However, Daily Caller has managed the near impossible by allowing the dumbest fuck on the planet to write for them. The fact that Spanky actually posted a link and quote of the stupidest thing said on the internet this week perhaps suggests that few actually read some of his stuff.

Just because you can't make this shit up - from post #3:
"You know where else there were dead American bodies? The beaches of Normandy, the beaches of Japan, the Ardennes Forest...
Christ on a pogo stick - that's epically fucked up and try as I might I can't give the Daily Caller fuckwit the benefit of the doubt by assuming he meant Iwo Jima or the Marshalls or Singapore, etc. He said BEACHES OF JAPAN!. Have any Americans turned up dead on the beaches of Japan other than those caused by overdoses of Viagra and raging cases of yellow fever? I think not. Hell, if we'd have poured a bunch of blood into the beaches it would have short-circuited the recent A-bomb debate before it left the gate.

Thus has Daily Caller wrested the title for greatest ignorance of history from Occupy Democrats- at least for the time being. I would hasten to note that it wasn't Spanky that beclowned himself so - it was some historically-challenged fuckwit named David Hookstead.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby Mark1 » October 1st 2017, 10:12pm

I'm not going to defend anything Spanky has posted here or in any other thread. But from my point of view it's a lower volume of bullshit than I see posted daily by liberals here. Several are on my ignore list just so I can keep saying to myself that this forum is worth logging into. Check the stats, he averages 1.2 posts a day. I understand many don't like what he posts, but if that constitutes trolling, I could name a quite a few offenders that put Spanky to shame.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby conjurer » October 1st 2017, 10:34pm

I don't like the idea of banning anybody from the forum unless they've literally gone apeshit, put their head through the drywall, etc.; like the Madhungarian, for example.

Every so often Spanky posts something that makes me cringe (which, as you might expect, isn't easy). When he does so, somebody usually breaks his balls, points out that he's half a nut, and that's the end to it. If we're going to have a politics subforum, there it is--we're going to encounter guys we don't agree with (to put it lightly.) Naturally, people step over the line, and more so these days.

In terms of the racial stuff, I find this abhorrent, and it's important to call members out. All in all, I find politics to be a dreary thing indeed, and would caution all members to think a few minutes before they post something. It's actually pretty easy to stand up, walk around the block, and change your mind before you post something monumentally stupid or hurtful.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby foghorn » October 2nd 2017, 1:01am

At least the liberal "BS" posters also contribute as members of a "watch forum". If the sole purpose of being here is to pump Trump then maybe a site dedicated to politics might be a better base of operations. I don't agree with a ton of stuff said here by both sides but I can respect the opinions of contributing members far more than of someone who is just here to ,seemingly, push a political agenda,bigly
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby bedlam » October 2nd 2017, 2:50am

svaglic wrote:It doesn't matter if Spanky puts more focus on watch related contributions or not.

Why else would he be here? It matters a lot.

He will be harangued by some people here until he just doesn't participate anymore. Just like ChronoMatt. Matt wasn't racist, but people here said he was and he was hassled until he just quit participating. Look at the contributions he made in his threads and posts, it didn't matter, once he had an opinion that didn't match up with the majority he was singled out. That's just how it is here.

There was a reaction in-thread to a racist thing Matt said in that thread. Nobody pursued him outside of that to my knowledge, so saying he was 'hassled until he left' is overstating things a fair bit. His contribution in the watch side of things was highly valued by everyone here.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby bobbee » October 2nd 2017, 4:26am

If my avatar collection offends you feel free to BAN ME FROM W.L.


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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby Wasp » October 2nd 2017, 5:19am

Kneeling to respect the flag and country, kaepernick? That’s rich. Kneeling to deliver a flag by a military representative is acceptable and appropriate gesture of respect to the recipient. The flag is not dipped in this scenario. There is no salute from the flag to the recipient in the kneeling presentation. Protocol dictates going to the level of the bereaved during the transfer.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby codguy » October 2nd 2017, 5:39am

foghorn wrote:At least the liberal "BS" posters also contribute as members of a "watch forum". If the sole purpose of being here is to pump Trump then maybe a site dedicated to politics might be a better base of operations.

Following that lead, that should go for a particular member whom starts which seems like daily anti-Trump threads and mostly contributes by posting in WURW threads.

svaglic wrote:It doesn't matter if Spanky puts more focus on watch related contributions or not. He will be harangued by some people here until he just doesn't participate anymore.
That's just how it is here.

This ^.

Mark1 wrote:What Spanky posts isn't any more objectionable than shit I see posted here everyday by others.

And this ^. To include the long standing/respected member that usually posts the typical "Fuck Trump" in every single anti-Trump thread. And the couple of members from across the ponds that either constantly chimes in about how fucked up our politics are or starts threads of that nature. One of which I believe does so just to push spankys buttons and then calls out for banishment.



This place is overwhelmingly liberal (with a commie or two sprinkled in), would say the ratio is easily 20:1 liberal to conservative. We all know who the more vocal ones are, many are right here in this thread.
Gawd forbid a member that sees things from a different perspective state something or posts a MEME that may hurt some feelings.....
As mentioned before... ignore function.

So spanky, post the obligatory WURW pic and continue on. Unless you are quoted, members that dislike what you post can move on to a happier time due to that forum function.





Back to the OP.....went to a football game last night and was pleased that only the few typical members on our side sat out the national anthem.

-----> Now if someone would quote me on this, it would allow the dozens of members, who have me on ignore, able to read it.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby bobbee » October 2nd 2017, 7:16am

And the couple of members from across the ponds that either constantly chimes in about how fucked up our politics are or starts threads of that nature.


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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby bobbee » October 2nd 2017, 7:19am

Funny how so much is being posted about someone who won't stand to your flag, yet nothing about the (other) psycho in Las Vegas?
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby foghorn » October 2nd 2017, 7:42am

bobbee wrote:Funny how so much is being posted about someone who won't stand to your flag, yet nothing about the (other) psycho in Las Vegas?




Vegas is still "breaking news"


The stand and kneel is going on for awhile.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby kevco » October 2nd 2017, 7:53am

Fine. Go for it. But remember what I said here: not one of those fucking NFL wonks is worth a small tin of dogshit when compared to the lowliest private, airman, seaman or rifleman. And every time one of them is killed, you ought to thank your lucky stars that you get to collect millions of dollars to play in less than 20 games a year, and while you're worried about an ankle sprain or a concussion, these young men and women are worried about IED's, rockets, bombs. and all the other things that could get them killed.

And while you're at it, you ought to take a moment to kiss their asses...and mine, while you're at it.


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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby koimaster » October 2nd 2017, 8:48am

Well some people put their money where their mouth is.
http://kaepernick7.com/million-dollar-pledge/
http://kaepernick7.com/ck7-april-2017-donations/

And here is one that I know the right will love.... :sarc: https://www.theepochtimes.com/colin-kae ... 23593.html


I agree with Jaw on this. http://www.watchlords.com/forum/viewtop ... 26#p407156

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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby biglove » October 2nd 2017, 10:04am

codguy wrote:
foghorn wrote:At least the liberal "BS" posters also contribute as members of a "watch forum". If the sole purpose of being here is to pump Trump then maybe a site dedicated to politics might be a better base of operations.

Following that lead, that should go for a particular member whom starts which seems like daily anti-Trump threads and mostly contributes by posting in WURW threads.

svaglic wrote:It doesn't matter if Spanky puts more focus on watch related contributions or not. He will be harangued by some people here until he just doesn't participate anymore.
That's just how it is here.

This ^.

Mark1 wrote:What Spanky posts isn't any more objectionable than shit I see posted here everyday by others.

And this ^. To include the long standing/respected member that usually posts the typical "Fuck Trump" in every single anti-Trump thread. And the couple of members from across the ponds that either constantly chimes in about how fucked up our politics are or starts threads of that nature. One of which I believe does so just to push spankys buttons and then calls out for banishment.



This place is overwhelmingly liberal (with a commie or two sprinkled in), would say the ratio is easily 20:1 liberal to conservative. We all know who the more vocal ones are, many are right here in this thread.
Gawd forbid a member that sees things from a different perspective state something or posts a MEME that may hurt some feelings.....
As mentioned before... ignore function.

So spanky, post the obligatory WURW pic and continue on. Unless you are quoted, members that dislike what you post can move on to a happier time due to that forum function.





Back to the OP.....went to a football game last night and was pleased that only the few typical members on our side sat out the national anthem.

-----> Now if someone would quote me on this, it would allow the dozens of members, who have me on ignore, able to read it.


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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby Mortuus » October 2nd 2017, 12:48pm

svaglic wrote:
bedlam wrote:
spanky1 wrote:Just exercising my first amendment rights like the NFL players. If my avatar collection offends you feel free to BAN ME FROM W.L.

Or you could focus more on watch related contributions, then there would be no need.


It doesn't matter if Spanky puts more focus on watch related contributions or not. He will be harangued by some people here until he just doesn't participate anymore. Just like ChronoMatt. Matt wasn't racist, but people here said he was and he was hassled until he just quit participating. Look at the contributions he made in his threads and posts, it didn't matter, once he had an opinion that didn't match up with the majority he was singled out.
That's just how it is here.

You know, Allison, I wish I had even 1% of your intellectual honesty and courage. That situation with Matt has always left me feeling sick at heart and absolutely disgusted with myself for not standing up for him. Bottom line, I didn't know what a "lip-plate" was, for chrissake, and had to look it up on Google to understand what the reference was all about. Once I knew what it was, I wracked my brain to see what was so racist about his use of the term and, with all due apologies for my apparent ignorance, I just couldn't see it. But, in the end, I was too chickenshit to say so, and thus failed come to a friend's defense.

And Matt was indeed hounded off this site, plain and simple, because even after the manufactured uproar -- that's right: manufactured uproar -- over the 'lip-plate' issue died down, he couldn't come here and talk watches (which, last time I checked, was the main purpose of the site), without the "banishment brigade" coming out to berate and race bait the guy, thereby shunting him aside as just another racist asshole. Even when he pointed out that he was himself in a mixed-race relationship, he was subjected to some of the worst attacks he'd seen to date, with one individual going so far as to say, "It doesn't matter who you're fucking." It doesn't matter who you're fucking? Jeebus Cripes on a pineapple upside-down cake! What kind of 'discussion' technique is that!

And now it seems we have the same group of self-appointed attitude enforcers -- plus a couple new ones who weren't here when Matt was subjected to all that he went through -- and you're trying to do the same thing to spanky. I looked through some of the memes that jaw has so faithfully collected, and I have yet to see anything so awful that should result in the banning of spanky. So, in order to share some of this irretrievable time we're always so worried about, how about we break out this Michelle Obama thing that's got everyone so up in arms, okay? And show us all of the other things we're supposed to be pointing the bony finger of indignation at, then maybe I'll agree with your assessment of the man, but so far, it just seems as if you're all mad at spanky because he uses memes and that pisses you off something fierce. (Hey, I get it; they're not much fun to have to deflect because a picture is worth a thousand words, and all, but they are what they are...)

I seem to recall a meme that I found a lot of truth in, a few years back; it was the definition of "racist." RACIST: A conservative who is winning an argument with a liberal. It really pisses off my liberal friends, and it makes my liberal 'acquaintances' absolutely apoplectic. As my late mother (may God rest her dear soul) used to say to me, "Son, when you point your finger at someone else, just remember that there are three other fingers pointing back at you." At the risk of being picked apart and called all kinds of petulant little names, I would submit that my liberal friends get so angry at that definition-of-racist meme because, to a large extent, it's is right on the money. And, hey, it's our own stupid fault, as conservatives, because we want to discuss ideas while the other side just wants to win.

Oh, and I love the post above that tells me I'm missing the whole point of the discussion. No, I'm not missing any points at all. I am ignoring the overall 'back-story' ( :roll: ) because I find this act of kneeling to be disrespectful to the flag of my country, a flag that I served under for 26+ years, the flag that I have flown from my home for 35+ years, and the flag they'll bury me under someday. This act was just like that of those stupid assholes who were shitting on police cars. I chose to ignore their so-called 'back-story,' too, because what they did was every bit as offensive -- in MY book -- as what these football players are doing now, and any interest I might have had in their message was quashed by their piss-poor behavior.

But let me make something perfectly clear here: at no time have I ever said they should be arrested, or fired or whatever for these acts of kneeling. I am disgusted beyond words by what they're doing, but I would not call for their heads because of it. However, as Hawk alluded to, there are consequences to exercising free speech, and if Americans decide that these acts have taken some of the fun out of football and decide to tell the NFL, "Thanks, but no thanks," well then, that's just one of those " 'tough titty,' said the kitty, 'but the milk's still good' " situations.

And if you insist on talking about CK's 'back-story,' in doing this, I need to tell you that Dr. King, Rev. Abernathy, Medger Evers and El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz got my attention long before that underwhelming, third-string cry-baby was even born. So spare me the accusations and the race-baiting. I'm not buying into any of it.

Whatever happened to the courageousness of Evelyn Hall's "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" statement? Where are those same people who were accusing me of trying to railroad 'ol Slowpo, before he finally shot himself in the foot? You all boasted of your tolerance and defense of the unpopular "little guy." Well? I'm waiting...and methinks I'll be waiting a very long time.

Wherever you are, Matt, I'm sorry I didn't come to your defense when you were facing the gauntlet on your own. I hope you can forgive me for letting you down so badly, because I'll never forgive myself...

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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby jaw » October 2nd 2017, 1:04pm

Microcosm - I hate that word but that's what Watchlords is, there have always been racists here. Their MOs vary but they all need their release. Playing chicken with the boundaries of social decency. Some steam alone (you'd never know it till they pop). Some nuance around the fringe (usually in code). Some poke those boundaries under the guise of fun and just barely within the guidelines (and their cowardly minion remora). Some just get right down to it, and dare you to stop them.

ChronoMATT was the nuanced type for the most part. He jabbed in code, pushing the boundaries more and more until he poked through the veil of decency. I challenged him each time I noticed until the last, when he finally admitted he could not help himself and was proud of it. I'm sure he's an example of the likable-racist type to many here, with nice watches/knowledge, smart, a good writer, and an all-around nice guy (to all but his targets). None of that (or mixed marriage), precludes the propensity for racism, however. Many abolitionists deeply believed that whites were the superior race. Matt knew what he was doing and why. I give him credit for self-deporting, and spanky should do the same.

So yes, there are racists here just like anywhere else - always will be. I know of at least 4 who know they are and about 6 who don't. I imagine the latter (in their daily lives), manage to productively coexist with liberals and minorities without crossing the lines of decency. Can we all manage to do that here? Perhaps, but I doubt it. Lots of reading, little comprehension, and all that damnable steam to vent. Watchlords has never recovered from Obama 2008 election. That's when it all changed here (and everwhere). The uncensored TOS attracted socio-political trolls like stank on shit. Some only show up during election season now. One leaves and another takes its place. Penny out penny in.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby Mortuus » October 2nd 2017, 1:14pm

No comment from me, other than to say that Senator Joseph McCarthy saw miscreants around every corner, too. Other than that, the contents of the above post thoroughly and quite eloquently speak for themselves.
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Re: What does it mean when Kaepernick kneels?

Postby jaw » October 2nd 2017, 1:27pm

Nope, It was in the full light of day.
Code Translation: No president shall ever have one drop of African blood.
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jaw wrote:
ChronoMATT wrote:Birther!

You forgot the last, long lost requirement: "No relative may have ever sported a lip plate".


Just can't help yourself can you asshole?
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