Finally: A Burett For My Collection

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Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mortuus » January 9th 2014, 12:33am

I’d heard of Burett early on in my pursuit of becoming a serious collector of watches. When I got my first glimpse of one, it was part of the lineup in one of Shawn Wilsie’s ShopNBC watch programs. As was typical of him, he began his presentation with a three-minute dissertation on the proper pronunciation of the Burett name; what I could glean from it was that it was pronounced either 'Burr-ette' or 'Be-yurr-ette.' He then shrugged his shoulders in that goofy Wilsie manner of his, and held the watch up so the camera guys could get one of their trademark close-up shots. I recall thinking, ‘Not too bad, not too bad at all.’ (The watch, that is. Wilsie, on the other hand, was another story... Okay, okay, I'm just kidding, already. Truthfully, and in my not-so-humble opine, Wilsie was one of the good guys at Shop, a pretty decent presenter and a seemingly stand-up guy in a network dominated by the likes of Messrs. Skelton, Temple, Megan and Davis. A piece of fresh fruit, floating in an otherwise turd-laden punchbowl...um, if you will.)

The watch was IP black, save for the subdials, lettering and numerals, all of which were referred to as “silvertone” (which, along with “goldtone” and "rosetone," sounds to me like the biggest metallic copouts in the watch biz. I mean, think about it for a second: if I spray-paint the doggoned thing with gold-colored Rust-O-Lium or Testor’s, or whatever, it could rightfully be referred to as “goldtone.” Ditto silver-colored paint. Jeebus, but that chaps my hide).

It was certainly attractive enough, but the price (somewhere in the vicinity of $435 USD) was something I could ill afford at the time. Shawn mentioned that the $435 was actually Shop’s “Once-Only Price,” one that could never (not ever, ever, dammit!!) be sold for less than $435 USD…”Damn,” I thought.

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I looked for the original price on ShopNBC’s rather lonely – just one model – ‘Burett page’ and saw that its ‘ShopNBC price’ was right around $525 bones. ‘Damn,’ I thought again, this time appending it with, ‘ain’t that something,’ for no particular reason. (Okay, so my internal repartees weren’t all that glib back then, but I figured that the fewer words I spoke to myself, the better my overall mental health would be. Uh-huh, just so… What that says about me now is, well, something I try not to contemplate too often.) In the end, I figured that my chances of actually owning a Burett weren’t all that great, so I dismissed the attractive-but-pricy brand from any further contemplation.

That was five years ago.

Then, a couple months ago, I was absentmindedly looking through the World of Watches (WoW) clearance pages, when a vaguely familiar visage and moniker pairing showed up on my laptop. A quick double-take verified that I wasn’t seeing things: there, in all its glory, was a black IP Burett sport watch, this one with an even more attractive silver-colored-dial-with-black-numbers option that hadn’t been listed on Shop five years before. But something was way off the mark, so much so that it took me a couple of passes through the item description and photos to realize what it was that was so vastly different.

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Nope, not seein’ it…how’s about a closer look?

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Dang…still not seeing it…!

Okay, okay, how’s about this: WoW’s clearance price – $209 bones. And only two remained in inventory.

Stifling a cry of ‘Holy discounts, Batman,’ I made quick work out of buying the watch. There was none of that ‘What was I thinking?’ thinking that sometimes hits you shortly after you’ve clicked the pay 'button’ on an item you just had to have. No unfounded panic along the lines of, ‘How Will I ever manage to pay this watch off?’ Nope, all was nice and quiet, both at Casa del Muerto and, more importantly, en el cráneo del Muerto. And when it got here, there was a distinct absence of both types of guilt I regularly experience – my Catholic and Jewish halves were eerily quiet as I walked to my workshop to open the package.

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(Cue the strip music - Gypsy Rose Lee's theme...da-da, de-da, de-da-da-da, da-da, de-da, de-DA-da, da-da, DA, BOOM!, DA, BOOM! Da, BOOM!, DA, BOOM!, da-DA, de-da-DA-DA, de-de de-de DA-dum...)

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Check out the wood in that box...WOOF!

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And teasin' it a little closer... (and now I can't get that stupid striptease music out of my head...DAMN!)

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Now, I know what you're thinking: very pretty, but can it FIGHT? I dunno, but here's the technical stuff:

Brand: Burett
Model: "Continental"
(Note: items in red are corrections to the original post.)
Model Number: B4203
Type: Sport Chronograph / Tachymeter
Country of Origin: Switzerland
Gender: Men's
Display Type: Analogue
Crystal: Sapphire
Dial Color: Silver matte, oil press guilloche style
Lume: Yes
Case Color: Black IP
Weight (Prior to Sizing): 204 grams
Case Width (W/O Crown): 44mm
Case Thickness: 12mm
Case Back Type: Solid Stainless Steel
Bezel: Unidirectional
Bracelet Type: Black IP Stainless Steel (3-link 'Oyster' Type)
Bracelet Width: 24mm (Non-Tapering)
Bracelet Length: 8"
Clasp: Diver's push-button fold-over with keeper
Movement: Swiss ETA 251-272 Quartz
Miscellaneous Notes: Water resistant to 200M; date display at 4 o'clock; red 'arrowhead' style tip on chrono seconds hand.

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A very nice backside...

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Much to my surprise, the watch has proven to be very comfortable. The bracelet doesn't snag, even on my sasquatch-level arm hair, and the clasp doesn't rub or pinch. The 5mm-high crown doesn't dig into the back of my hand, which is a very pleasant surprise, given the 44mm case width - which, in and of itself, is about as wide as I prefer to go these days. Its relatively thin 12mm thickness keeps it low on the wrist throughout the day, preventing it from becoming a top-heavy distraction. Taking all these features as a whole, I tend to forget it's there most of the time.

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The dial has a goodly number of nice details, but not so many that you'll have difficulty finding out the time, though the polished skeleton hour and minute hands do preclude a quick glance at the time, unless you've just been there a couple of minutes before, and already have a feel for where the hands should be. The subdials' chapter rings are in black, which makes them easy to find, but even with their white numbers and other markings, their size is just too small for an easy read (even if your eyes happen to be less than 50 years-old). The oil-press, guilloche-style 'sunrise' design is very attractive, and it enhances - as opposed to being too busy and taking away from - the overall presentation of the dial.

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As usual, I don't have any lume shots, but I can tell you that, with the upper portions of the hands bearing a goodly amount of super luminova, along with the baton hour markers on the dial and bezel, this watch easily passes the Conjurer-Quick-Glance-in-a-Dark-Car Test, not to mention the newer, less-stringent Mortuus-Quick-Glance-in-a-Closed-Coffin Test. Either way, the lume does its job with no appreciable down-checks.

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All-in-all, this watch has very quickly become a rotation favorite; it has all the style and function of its much more expensive counterparts at a fraction of the cost and total weight. In some ways, its styling is reminiscent of a few of my old Renato watches, but again, it doesn't burden you with too much weight and too much cost, which are sort of Renato traditions. Yes, the subdials are small and difficult to read, but that doesn't preclude my enjoyment of this watch. Still, if a I angle it just so...and shine the light down at the proper angle...I can - sort of - read the subdials quite well...er...I can sort of read them. At any rate, this lone down-check is certainly not a show-stopper, and it shouldn't be for anyone. In truth, when balanced against the rest of the package, it's an all-but-miniscule complaint. (Even if I do have to carry around a magnifying glass like good old Rasil Bathbone in the good old Sherlock Holmes mystery movies... :roll: )

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(Note the rare, after-market left-hand mod above - AKA Mort taking the bloody-damned picture upside-down...)

Many thanks, as always, for dropping by...

(And many thanks to eddiea for the corrected information... :!: )
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby hcharles » January 9th 2014, 1:24am

Mort strikes again. Another fine pick up. Great job, Mort.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mortuus » January 9th 2014, 1:53am

hcharles wrote:Mort strikes again. Another fine pick up. Great job, Mort.


Many thanks, HC :!:
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby ChronoMATT » January 9th 2014, 2:17am

I returned a two tone version a couple years ago picked-up from a WOW daily deal at $179.00. To my dismay, the IP black was only applied to one surface of the bracelet links, not all the way around, and it felt so thin and fragile, I was fearful it would scrape off via accidental contact with a fingernail. It certainly went against all the positive reviews I had heard about the company's product quality.

I do like the design of the Continent model and think it ships with an ETA 251. I'm glad to see you had a better experience, Mort.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mortuus » January 9th 2014, 2:48am

ChronoMATT wrote:I returned a two tone version a couple years ago picked-up from a WOW daily deal at $179.00. To my dismay, the IP black was only applied to one surface of the bracelet links, not all the way around, and it felt so thin and fragile, I was fearful it would scrape off via accidental contact with a fingernail. It certainly went against all the positive reviews I had heard about the company's product quality.

I do like the design of the Continent model and think it ships with an ETA 251. I'm glad to see you had a better experience, Mort.


I have to admit that the number of times I've gone through a similar experience with other manufacturers' black IP watches has been on the order of half a dozen or so. Fortunately, they were all either returnable or saleable at a later date - with all defects noted in the description, of course - at a loss. (Nothing earth-shattering, as no one - save for fools and Invicta buyers - expects a positive ROI from their watches.)

As such, I have been loathe to buy any more of them; even this one gave me [an admittedly very brief] pause, but I went ahead, anyway. Either Burett has better QC or I'm very lucky, but this one proved to be very sound insofar as the spaces between links, etc., go. Which is good, especially since I don't plan on buying too many more - if any - black IP watches.

Like you, my watch tastes tend to run toward the plentiful supply of smaller, vintage watches offered for sale, though I still occasionally pick up the odd contemporary piece (like the stainless steel Burett with the ETA 2824-2* movement that I picked up not too long after this one, for which I may - or may not ;) - write a review).

At any rate, many thanks for slogging through yet another of my long reviews, Matt... :D


*Original reply erroneously stated that the Burett Neo-Icon movement was the Sellita SW-200.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby conjurer » January 9th 2014, 9:06am

Nice looking watch and fun write-up, big-dead-guy.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby jaw » January 9th 2014, 9:38am

A fine addition Mort. I still entertain the thought of owning a Burett, I just never seem to get around to acting on it - Enjoy.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby eddiea » January 9th 2014, 9:44am

Excellent choice Mort....
Couple points if I may.....
The model name is Continent (not "Abyss") the water resistance is 200 meters (not 100) and the movement is a high-end ETA 251-272 , 22 jewels I believe (used by Bretling at some point as their base movement for some of their "super-quartz" models) the watch still for sale for over $400 most everywhere including e-bay so you did well...love mine that has been to hell and back with me with no significant wear and tear of the black IP coating and was purchased on a Skelton hosted ShopNBC program several years ago ...
Burett holds several patents used at some point by Omega in their actual NASA"moonwatch" speedy program and it is currently made in Switzerland, funded (and owned) with capital by Korean based Samsung.Image
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby iwasbanned » January 9th 2014, 9:53am

So anyone know anything about Burrett? Is it like SWI, i.e. a Lior brand?
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby eddiea » January 9th 2014, 9:55am

iwasbanned wrote:So anyone know anything about Burrett? Is it like SWI, i.e. a Lior brand?

All the details I know, are posted above....
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mortuus » January 9th 2014, 11:13am

conjurer wrote:Nice looking watch and fun write-up, big-dead-guy.

Thanks, John; mucho appreciatado... :D
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mortuus » January 9th 2014, 11:25am

eddiea wrote:Excellent choice Mort....
Couple points if I may.....
The model name is Continent (not "Abyss") the water resistance is 200 meters (not 100) and the movement is a high-end ETA 251-272 , 22 jewels I believe (used by Bretling at some point as their base movement for some of their "super-quartz" models) the watch still for sale for over $400 most everywhere including e-bay so you did well...love mine that has been to hell and back with me with no significant wear and tear of the black IP coating and was purchased on a Skelton hosted ShopNBC program several years ago ...
Burett holds several patents used at some point by Omega in their actual NASA"moonwatch" speedy program and it is currently made in Switzerland, funded (and owned) with capital by Korean based Samsung.


Many, many thanks, edds :!: I went ahead and updated the correct info into the write-up; corrections are always welcome, and are much appreciated. And thanks also for the additional Burett info; it's good to know that I got as good a deal as I did. :D
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mortuus » January 9th 2014, 12:22pm

jaw wrote:A fine addition Mort. I still entertain the thought of owning a Burett, I just never seem to get around to acting on it - Enjoy.


Thank you, Jaw :!: I can tell you that it's well worth acquiring. :D
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Horse Feathers » January 9th 2014, 12:30pm

Looks good Mort, quite a nice deal as well

Agree that it looks very Renatoesque but leaner and trimmer

Pretty serious packaging as well, not a reason to select a watch but putting a latch like that on a box shows they give a damn about the out of the box experience and the packages longevity
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mortuus » January 9th 2014, 12:53pm

Horse Feathers wrote:Looks good Mort, quite a nice deal as well

Agree that it looks very Renatoesque but leaner and trimmer

Pretty serious packaging as well, not a reason to select a watch but putting a latch like that on a box shows they give a damn about the out of the box experience and the packages longevity


Many thanks, HF :!: My understanding is that the box is made from birch - or at least something they call 'burchbox.' :D Either way, I concur that it's a good sign that the folks at Burett give a damn about how they pack and protect their product.

Not to mention that, as a dead guy, any out-of-the-box experience is a good experience... :shock:
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mark1 » January 9th 2014, 1:01pm

iwasbanned wrote:So anyone know anything about Burrett? Is it like SWI, i.e. a Lior brand?


It appears SWI is their North American agent. Other entities distribute the watch in Asia and Europe. I have one of their Neo Icon watches, it's a nice piece, dressier than my normal daily wears.
Congrats Mort.

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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Mortuus » January 9th 2014, 1:16pm

Mark1 wrote:
iwasbanned wrote:So anyone know anything about Burrett? Is it like SWI, i.e. a Lior brand?


It appears SWI is their North American agent. Other entities distribute the watch in Asia and Europe. I have one of their Neo Icon watches, it's a nice piece, dressier than my normal daily wears.
Congrats Mort.

http://www.burett.com/


Thanks, Mark. The SWI-as-agent makes sense, given this watch's showing up on WoW. They're all sold out at present, and I have to wonder how many more they're going to get, if any.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby koimaster » January 9th 2014, 4:22pm

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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby jonnybardo » January 9th 2014, 5:16pm

Burett is owned by Invicta, like Imperious.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby svaglic » January 9th 2014, 5:17pm

Great find and a great price. I got lucky on my Burett, I put two r's in the spelling on an Ebay search. Just as I clicked search, I saw my mistake. I was getting ready to type it in again, but a seller had also spelled it that way and there was one listed. A world timer, GMT with no reserve, so I bid and got it super cheap. I got lucky, since it was spelled wrong, it didn't have the watchers it should have had. I've been very happy with it, I hope you are too.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Horse Feathers » January 9th 2014, 5:31pm

svoglic wrote:Great find and a great price. I got lucky on my Burett, I put two r's in the spelling on an Ebay search. Just as I clicked search, I saw my mistake. I was getting ready to type it in again, but a seller had also spelled it that way and there was one listed. A world timer, GMT with no reserve, so I bid and got it super cheap. I got lucky, since it was spelled wrong, it didn't have the watchers it should have had. I've been very happy with it, I hope you are too.


There are a few apps that help you find misspelled items on eBay. Have won a few auctions/BIN listings using these. I just bookmark my searches and run daily

Here is one http://www.newlifeauctions.com/misspell.html
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Horse Feathers » January 9th 2014, 5:35pm

jonnybardo wrote:Burett is owned by Invicta, like Imperious.


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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby jonnybardo » January 9th 2014, 5:38pm

koimaster wrote:
jonnybardo wrote:Burett is owned by Invicta, like Imperious.



http://www.professionaljeweler.com/arch ... 98tn1.html

http://www.hktdc.com/manufacturers-supp ... /1X00I9JQ/


That's all a smoke-screen.
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Re: Finally: A Burett For My Collection

Postby Horse Feathers » January 9th 2014, 5:43pm

jonnybardo wrote:
koimaster wrote:
jonnybardo wrote:Burett is owned by Invicta, like Imperious.



http://www.professionaljeweler.com/arch ... 98tn1.html

http://www.hktdc.com/manufacturers-supp ... /1X00I9JQ/


That's all a smoke-screen.


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