Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

All things related to "SWISS" Invicta watches and Chinese movements

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby waynebaker06 » May 30th 2012, 3:50pm

Douchebaggery at its finest. Soldiers get shit on enough by this country as it is without Lowlife jumping in and cashing in at their expense.
waynebaker06
Senior Member & WIS
 
Posts: 282
Joined: October 27th 2010, 10:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby WatchDorks.Net » May 30th 2012, 3:54pm

"It's bad enough I have to eat sand over here, but now some fucker sends me an Invicta."

Talk about rubbing salt in the wound.

Image
Proud "hater" since 2009. Get over it and have fun reassembling yer wartches.

Image

Image
User avatar
WatchDorks.Net
Senior Member & WIS
 
Posts: 4798
Joined: June 10th 2010, 10:00pm
Location: The Peoples Republic of Illinois

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby eddiea » May 30th 2012, 4:12pm

foghorn wrote: (like the lume for night mission etc.)

That particular statement was outrageously vile, the thought of a soldier depending on trinite for a night time sortie? is that a cruel joke, or the guy is a born again asshole?
eddiea
Founding Member & Master of Time
 
Posts: 10669
Joined: December 25th 2009, 11:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby abduksion » May 30th 2012, 7:22pm

I bet the guy who stole them, is a member at WG's and two will end up selling them for profits. You can see the girl behind Eyal laughing she's saying to herself, what a load of crap this guy is. These watches are only worth $7.77 cents.
I've never felt like I truly belonged here and I believe it's time I move on.
User avatar
abduksion
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7183
Joined: May 20th 2011, 10:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby theKING » May 31st 2012, 2:04am

$70,000 actually represents the total of all packages sent.... including the shipments that were broken into and stolen. A much larger number than 45... Still greatly inflated by about 69,000 though...

:cigar:
Last edited by Anonymous on May 31st 2012, 2:05am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: alignment
User avatar
theKING
Senior Member & WIS
 
Posts: 304
Joined: December 28th 2010, 11:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby foghorn » May 31st 2012, 3:29am

theKING wrote:$70,000 actually represents the total of all packages sent.... including the shipments that were broken into and stolen. A much larger number than 45... Still greatly inflated by about 69,000 though...

Image




And how,exactly,did you come by that information?

Nowhere in the article, or video, is that mentioned.

Did they write a follow-up that I missed??
GET OFF MY LAWN
Image

Finding out the time is about as difficult as finding a cheesburger.
boneyguy, Sep 12, 2007 #12
User avatar
foghorn
Founding Member
 
Posts: 15269
Joined: December 18th 2009, 11:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby koimaster » May 31st 2012, 5:24am

Posted at youtube and watchgeeks

Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby AJC » May 31st 2012, 6:07am

koimaster wrote:Posted at youtube and watchgeeks



The co-anchor's name was Maurice DuBois. If only the other was named Depraz.

The mental picture of a whole platoon of American soldiers over in Deustchland with 55mm monstrosities strapped to their wrists makes me laugh. But, this story in general and Lalo's shameless taking advantage of this situation to shill his product makes me uneasy. I would applaud him if he donated the watches and left it at that. But the fake qc inspectors, the inflated msrp, and the overall sense that I get that he's completely insincere pisses me off more than anything he's done in the past. It's a show.
-Madvillian
User avatar
AJC
Watchlord WIS
 
Posts: 6093
Joined: May 14th 2012, 10:00pm
Location: Wilmington, DE AKA "Murdertown, USA" -Newsweek

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby eddiea » May 31st 2012, 6:26am

koimaster wrote:@ FB

This Conversation.Vanessa Borge.
4 hours agoWatch Lords

Your story on Invica is becoming an internet joke line.Every watch forum is laughing at the so called $70,000 value of these donated watches. Over-inflated MSRP and sales prices at shopnbc. Really, $70,000. I can buy this watch brand new at ebay for under $700 at the highest.DId you even question thses calims? Do some research on this company. From fake sandstone dials which Laolo claimed were real ( I have the proof) to fake business relationships with Dubois Depraz, claims of Swiss factories they own which do not exisit. Come on now.
https://www.facebook.com/messages/2065991

http://watchlords.forumotion.net/f31-invicta-controversies
..


Did she ever make a comment on this?
eddiea
Founding Member & Master of Time
 
Posts: 10669
Joined: December 25th 2009, 11:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby koimaster » May 31st 2012, 6:29am

AJC wrote:
koimaster wrote:Posted at youtube and watchgeeks



The co-anchor's name was Maurice DuBois. If only the other was named Depraz.

The mental picture of a whole platoon of American soldiers over in Deustchland with 55mm monstrosities strapped to their wrists makes me laugh. But, this story in general and Lalo's shameless taking advantage of this situation to shill his product makes me uneasy. I would applaud him if he donated the watches and left it at that. But the fake qc inspectors, the inflated msrp, and the overall sense that I get that he's completely insincere pisses me off more than anything he's done in the past. It's a show.


Agreed. IMHO if he had been sincere, this would have been done on the QT without fanfare.



eddiea wrote:
koimaster wrote:@ FB

This Conversation.Vanessa Borge.
4 hours agoWatch Lords

Your story on Invica is becoming an internet joke line.Every watch forum is laughing at the so called $70,000 value of these donated watches. Over-inflated MSRP and sales prices at shopnbc. Really, $70,000. I can buy this watch brand new at ebay for under $700 at the highest.DId you even question thses calims? Do some research on this company. From fake sandstone dials which Laolo claimed were real ( I have the proof) to fake business relationships with Dubois Depraz, claims of Swiss factories they own which do not exisit. Come on now.
https://www.facebook.com/messages/2065991

http://watchlords.forumotion.net/f31-invicta-controversies
..


Did she ever make a comment on this?


Nothing as yet
Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby koimaster » May 31st 2012, 6:56am

Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the val

Postby koimaster » May 31st 2012, 7:00am

This is the POS that invicta claims 48 of them are worth $70,000. At the full bogus MSRP claimed of $585.00, the 48 watches are worth $28,080. That is a far cry from $78,000 being claimed. At the current sales price of $188.00 these POS total $9k.

http://www.shopnbc.com/Invicta_Men_s_Specialty_Swiss_Quartz_Chronograph_Titanium_Case_Polyurethane_Strap_Watch/604-440.aspx
donated to soldiers.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby themadhungarian » May 31st 2012, 8:32am

3 watch brands make up 99.999999% of the watches worn in combat zones: Casio G-Shock, Suunto, and Timex, because that is what AAFES sells!

I recently spotted a lieutenant in my company wearing a large garish watch.....a Goer (which he pronounced snottily as Go-EHHHH) but I didn't have to heart to tell him what a massive douchebag he looked like.
User avatar
themadhungarian
 

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby Datsun240Z71 » May 31st 2012, 8:46am

Was he making a fish sammich?
Randy in Nashville
User avatar
Datsun240Z71
Watchlord WIS
 
Posts: 2084
Joined: February 9th 2010, 11:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby themadhungarian » May 31st 2012, 8:48am

He's a young 2nd Lieutenant, he doesn't know any better. I am going to let him down easy pretty soon though. I mean hell, our 1SG wears a Sinn U1 to work every day and if he sees that piece of shit Goer he will let the young platoon leader know for sure hahahahahaha
User avatar
themadhungarian
 

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby eddiea » May 31st 2012, 9:22am

themadhungarian wrote:3 watch brands make up 99.999999% of the watches worn in combat zones: Casio G-Shock, Suunto, and Timex, because that is what AAFES sells!

I recently spotted a lieutenant in my company wearing a large garish watch.....a Goer (which he pronounced snottily as Go-EHHHH) but I didn't have to heart to tell him what a massive douchebag he looked like.

That makes sense magyar...and prompt the question, why would anyone sent useless fashion accessories to a platoon of soldiers?
eddiea
Founding Member & Master of Time
 
Posts: 10669
Joined: December 25th 2009, 11:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby WatchDorks.Net » May 31st 2012, 9:49am

Do you really need to ask that question?

For the tax writeoff and the publicity, DUH!

Not a single person over at WG has dared to question either the motivation or the claimed value... damned idiots.
Proud "hater" since 2009. Get over it and have fun reassembling yer wartches.

Image

Image
User avatar
WatchDorks.Net
Senior Member & WIS
 
Posts: 4798
Joined: June 10th 2010, 10:00pm
Location: The Peoples Republic of Illinois

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby abduksion » May 31st 2012, 10:01am

45 watches do not equal $70k. 585x45=26,325. I'm going by what Shop as the watch listed at MSRP. So where in the hell is the other 50k coming from? Shipping??? Even if the watches had a MSRP of the $188.43 the current price shop as them its only 183x45= 8,479.35 That would mean it cost Invicta over $50k to ship them???
Last edited by Anonymous on March 21st 2013, 11:01am, edited 1 time in total.
I've never felt like I truly belonged here and I believe it's time I move on.
User avatar
abduksion
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7183
Joined: May 20th 2011, 10:00pm

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby TemerityB » May 31st 2012, 10:18am

I just read the local (NY) CBS 2 (our local channel here) report, which contained the line, "CBS happy to play a role..."

In fact, the headline of the article reads:

Invicta CEO Delivers Watches To U.S. Soldiers With A Little Help From CBS 2

As much as I admire our troops and charity, allow me this: That's really fucking lame, CBS.

A real news organization - journalists, that is - aren't supposed to be part of the story, no matter what their role. I've been a news reporter, and if someone called me looking for information or help on something, absolutely, you help them out. But when the story comes out, the channel gives itself a pat on the back? That doesn't even qualify as yellow journalism - that's selling out your news cred for the sake of an "aww, isn't that nice!" from your lamest viewers.

What the fuck ever happened to standards, both personal and professional? A news room is supposed to be there to simply report, but then again, since Fox has pretty much ruined the TV news business, everything's a fucking variety show now. A prominent newscaster in upstate New York once told me, "we're not here to help; we're not here to hurt. We're here to report the news." Of course, that was a long time ago. Standards? Only if they equate to ratings points these days.

And as for Invicta, I have NO problem with their gift. Someone sent our servicemen free stuff. Personally, I think that's great in fact. I've done it myself - the only difference is I didn't concoct a way to let the press know all about it.

But that's our problem as a society; unless is happens on TV, it didn't happen. And only with a company like IWG can something like this take place and it still feels grubby and faux.
Last edited by Anonymous on May 31st 2012, 4:14pm, edited 1 time in total.
"To really be a watch company, you have to make your own watch with your own movement. Otherwise, you're a casing company." - Roland Murphy
User avatar
TemerityB
ASSHAT
 
Posts: 13060
Joined: June 12th 2010, 10:00pm
Location: New York City

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby koimaster » May 31st 2012, 12:06pm

Image

Image
Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby koimaster » September 13th 2012, 1:50pm

Image
Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby koimaster » November 28th 2012, 8:37am

Image
Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby koimaster » February 20th 2013, 8:54pm

Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby koimaster » March 20th 2013, 7:16pm

from the mongo channel to you. review of bullshit

Image

1946-2006

“Your heart was warm and happy

With the lilt of Irish laughter

Every day and in every way

Now forever and ever after."
User avatar
koimaster
Administrator/Founder
 
Posts: 32126
Joined: December 16th 2009, 11:00pm
Location: Oregon

Re: Invicta Donates To Soldiers - false claims about the values of the watches donated.

Postby Horse Feathers » March 20th 2013, 7:50pm

"If you contribute inventory (property that you sell in the course of your business), the amount you can claim as a contribution deduction is the smaller of its fair market value on the day you contributed it or its basis"

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p334/ch06.html

So for a manufacturer the tax code is clear, the amount of your deductible contribution is the fair market value (FMV), minus any gain you would have realized if you sold the item at its fair market value on the date you made the donation.

Example, Lalo has a watch in inventory that he paid a factory in China $50 to make. He decides he needs to offset the latest debacle and decides to donate the watch. On that date ShopNBC would pay him $200 for it. If he decided to sell the watch his profit would be $150 ($200 wholesale less $50 cost). So his donation is limited $50





Image

"I did lose a pusher pulling it out of the mug however
it doesn't affect functionality"

- JR of Reclinervision ™
User avatar
Horse Feathers
ASSHAT
 
Posts: 9282
Joined: August 29th 2010, 10:00pm

PreviousNext

Return to Invicta controversies

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 2 guests