And what's the deal with Panerai?

Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby 3Flushes » February 4th 2014, 9:42pm

Like Rolex, until the 1950, Panerai stuck with their successful formula, seeing, as you said, no need to fuck with success. In developing their own calibre however, because of the in line triple-barrel innovation and linear P / R indicator, the case had to be thicker, and they also took the opportunity to decrease the diameter of the case a few mm as well. So, unlike Rolex, they stepped out of the traditional three cases to step into the manufacture of their own, highly innovative movements, and in so doing, pissed off most of their most avid collectors, who refuse to even consider buying into the new models. I think Rolex would experience much the same reaction if they one day introduced a 48mm sub, 6mm thicker to facilitate a 1000 meter water resistance rating.
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby eddiea » March 20th 2014, 2:44pm

Me thinking that probably Carl put best when he said that, Panerai is the less bang for the buck you can have in the planet
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby iwasbanned » March 20th 2014, 3:31pm

eddiea wrote:Me thinking that probably Carl put best when he said that, Panerai is the less bang for the buck you can have in the planet


You guys are killing me. I'll just hide in shame with this one:

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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby fatman » March 20th 2014, 3:47pm

I don't know much about them but I wouldn't turn my nose up at a bracelet model. Which I was once told, are the least desirable/ sell for less in aftermarket?
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby conjurer » March 20th 2014, 4:46pm

iwasbanned wrote:
eddiea wrote:Me thinking that probably Carl put best when he said that, Panerai is the less bang for the buck you can have in the planet


You guys are killing me. I'll just hide in shame with this one:

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That's fucking class, too!
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby Horse Feathers » March 20th 2014, 4:54pm

^ That would make an excellent "blowing up shit" watch
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby jonnybardo » March 20th 2014, 5:01pm

iwasbanned wrote:You guys are killing me. I'll just hide in shame with this one:

(picture of awesome watch that I won't re-post for tenth time)


I would love to have one of those (although prefer the OEM rubber straps), but the cost. What do those go for, $10K new, $6-8K used?
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby jason_recliner » March 20th 2014, 5:19pm

I go through phases of getting Panerai, then not getting it at all. Currently not getting Panerai at all - my wife and wallet would prefer it to stay this way!
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby Don Barzini » March 20th 2014, 5:32pm

3Flushes wrote:. I think Rolex would experience much the same reaction if they one day introduced a 48mm sub, 6mm thicker to facilitate a 1000 meter water resistance rating.


Having worn a Deep Sea Sea Dweller on my 6.5" wrist for exactly 10 hours before I returned it, I'd say they nearly have.
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby codguy » March 20th 2014, 6:05pm

jonnybardo wrote:
I would love to have one of those (although prefer the OEM rubber straps), but the cost. What do those go for, $10K new, $6-8K used?


If you have to ask.......


IWB- That watch is NICE, love that strap as well.
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby gregl515 » March 21st 2014, 2:27am

IWB, I'd love to be able to own one. That is beautiful.
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby bedlam » March 21st 2014, 2:43am

iwasbanned wrote:
eddiea wrote:Me thinking that probably Carl put best when he said that, Panerai is the less bang for the buck you can have in the planet


You guys are killing me. I'll just hide in shame with this one:

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It is pretty.

But I thought you had to be an old over-roided, washed-out, action-movie ex-star to wear them?
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby jonnybardo » March 21st 2014, 5:06am

bedlam wrote:But I thought you had to be an old over-roided, washed-out, action-movie ex-star to wear them?


How do you know that's not what iwasbanned is?
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby iwasbanned » March 21st 2014, 5:53am

jonnybardo wrote:
bedlam wrote:But I thought you had to be an old over-roided, washed-out, action-movie ex-star to wear them?


How do you know that's not what iwasbanned is?


I do still bench over 350lbs and I once starred in a commercial here in Austin with the old longhorn coach Mack Brown for a local non profit. Finally, I am 36 which is on the wrong side of 35.

So maybe.
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby eddiea » March 21st 2014, 6:15am

eddiea wrote:Me thinking that probably Carl put best when he said that, Panerai is the less bang for the buck you can have in the planet

Like I said.....
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby Richt2k » March 23rd 2014, 10:21am

I'm surprised the Panerai 318 scandal has not been brought up on this forum....

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f75/someon ... 06588.html
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby Jamesbee » March 23rd 2014, 10:29am

Richt2k wrote:I'm surprised the Panerai 318 scandal has not been brought up on this forum....

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f75/someon ... 06588.html


tell me more..
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby Horse Feathers » March 23rd 2014, 10:34am

Richt2k wrote:I'm surprised the Panerai 318 scandal has not been brought up on this forum....

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f75/someon ... 06588.html


Jeebus, that must be the cheapest 6497 version they could buy. At least they could have cleaned up the edges, have the graduations for the adjuster etched and their name and serial number applied.

Seems they know the majority of their customers are non WIS and buy them for the look and name so why bother.. $$$$$
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby conjurer » March 23rd 2014, 10:44am

This isn't the first time a WIS bought the Brooklyn Bridge.
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby catnap » March 23rd 2014, 11:01am

Richt2k wrote:I'm surprised the Panerai 318 scandal has not been brought up on this forum....

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f75/someon ... 06588.html

Pitiful episode at best
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby jason_recliner » March 23rd 2014, 11:07am

catnap wrote:Pitiful episode at best


Pitiful AND hilarious :D
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby conjurer » March 23rd 2014, 11:58am

To give Panerai credit, they did get out in front of this scandal pretty fast and tried to make things right with their collectors. What remains to be answered is why Panny did something so stupid in the first place.
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby AJC » March 23rd 2014, 12:09pm

Some of those members excusing this REEKS of geekness.

I've kept out of these discussions up to now, but I figured I might as well throw in my two cents.

Unless I'm buying a Panerai with a display back, or an inhouse movement, I could care less if the movement says Panerai on it. That movement is a tried and proven workhorse, and I have complete faith in it's timekeeping abilities. I never open any of my watches, so I don't care what it looks like, as long as it works.

And that's all I have to say about that. happy.gif

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I know , it's not a special dial, and it's not tritium

Imo this is MUCH more than discolored tritium or some minor thing on a dial. Every tritium dial looks brown after some time. If it's a Rolex or a Panerai or a ...

Differences on the dial are seen too often. (Patrizzi dial Daytona's, red subs, submariners with a little line under the word 'submariner', Green subs with or without the 'fat four', early 15620 daytona's with a 200-bezel and enamel dial, Rolex GMT stick-dial, a PIG or no PIG on a PAM292, ...
We can go on and on and on

Even the smallest detail will be cliamed important , the collectors are somethimes a strange breed LOL

But in this case we're not talking about a little detail !

I know one thing, If I would have one I would NEVER let them replace it with an OP II. NEVER
It would feel as if Rolex would swap a Red sub dial with a white sub dial, or if they would put new hands on your watch and throw the aged tritium away. Or a patek with refinished dial.
I would insist to keep it original, even if this means it has an ugly raw unrecognizable movement.


Will they become sought after or not ? Will their value drop or rise ? I don't know
Maybe it will maybe it won't or maybe it will take 20 years wink.gif

If somebody knows for sure which piece will be very hot within a few years, please let me know LOL



Give me a break! The movement doesn't even have Incabloc shock protection and the edges looked chewed on by a rat.

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And is that a hairline fracture on the bridge?!

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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby hcharles » March 23rd 2014, 2:31pm

Sounds like another watch forum, that worships the crappy yellow watch box with the D cell battery.
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Re: And what's the deal with Panerai?

Postby Tzimisces » March 23rd 2014, 4:00pm

The $70 Seiko 5 I'm wearing has a better movement than that POS. I can't imagine a reason why this was released. I also can't see this becoming a collector piece. "Look! I finally got my grail. Never mind the nice ones, I got the one with the cheap movement! Just look at these macro shots! Chewed up edges? Check! No decoration? Check! No engraving? Check!"
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