Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby koimaster » July 25th 2017, 1:43pm

Spyderco has filed a lawsuit against eBay, one of the largest eCommerce retailers in the world. The suit centers around the sale of fake Spyderco knives on eBay.com, and alleges five offenses including trademark infringement.

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Re: Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby foghorn » July 25th 2017, 2:05pm

Good for Spyderco. More companies should follow suit. Ebay does squat about fakes-even when given proof through multiple complaints.


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Re: Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby biglove » July 25th 2017, 3:52pm

Good!

Considering the huge amount of cash eBay makes as commission of the counterfeit goods, don't expect much to change unless the fine is HUGE!
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Postby Racer-X » July 25th 2017, 3:59pm

Good for them, Oakley and Otterbox should follow.
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Postby tiktok » July 25th 2017, 4:36pm

And Louis Vuitton, Hermes, Chanel, Bape and Enicar.
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Postby 3Flushes » July 25th 2017, 7:24pm

It's good to see all of these companies making like the NFL and protecting their trademarks.
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Re: Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby Tzimisces » July 26th 2017, 4:36pm

3Flushes wrote:It's good to see all of these companies making like the NFL and protecting their trademarks.


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Re: Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby MKTheVintageBloke » July 26th 2017, 7:47pm

I'm afraid it's something of an illusion, that the eBay staff can fully control every single thing sold through such a behemoth (in terms of the amount of items listed) of a site, and that through making the regulations more stringent, it all will out of a sudden be perfect for everyone. While the companies certainly have the right to protect their trademarks, I'm afraid that suing eBay might in the end turn out to be a wee bit like the story of Xerxes, the king of Persia, whipping the waters of Hellespont.

I would be surprised, if eBay didn't have a proper set of regulations concerning the procedure of removing a fake item after it's reported as such. For one, the number of reports on an item being a fake. I don't know how many times does an item have to be reported in order for eBay to remove it, however many times have I seen listings for fake watches being removed after being reported by WUS (and, likely, of a number of other forums as well) members. Did I see eBay fail to remove such an item? Yes. Quite a few times. Shit being relisted over and over, despite being reported? Seen that as well.

They don't have experts on every single thing in every single category of items sold through their site, as that's impossible to do on such a scale. Not even Chrono24, a far smaller site, can prevent every single sale of a fake or franken, and I've seen some seriously nasty shit sold there. And if one or two reports only could cut it, and have the listing and the seller removed, then every single seller could use that to get rid of his competitor(s).

I've also seen situations, where eBay didn't really show a lot of common sense (they did show a fair bit of zeal instead), and bowed to even the most nonsensical complaints regarding trademark infringement. An example of that is the infamous case of NATO straps (as much as with all the anti-NATO-strap sentiments here some might not like the example, it doesn't detract from its validity) , where some utter wanker of a strap seller in the US has registered "NATO" as his trademark (I don't know who in the authorities has allowed him to do that, but it must have been some countryside product of incest going on for a few generations), and had eBay remove hundreds of listings by dozens of sellers, in his pursuit of a monopoly for NATO straps.

I'm not saying that eBay is all good here, but the possible implications of potential changes need to be assessed. It's easy to say that they're not doing enough, and it's equally easy to fuck up the situation all the same with a change in eBay procedures. While a change in regulations might help the manufacturers, it can easily expose a lot of the sellers to an entire legion of motherfucking crooks like that NATO strap swindler. When it comes to regulations, deficit and excess are both easy to exploit, and that said, I just wonder if when the companies get what they want, it won't be out of the frying pan, and into the fire for many others.
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Re: Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby tiktok » July 26th 2017, 8:18pm

in my industry people buy an ounce bottle of perfume and then split the bottle into six smaller spray bottles and then sell the splits via the Bay or Facebook groups. It's pretty crazy when u release two hundred bottles of one scent and hundreds of people list it as part of their collection. Technically eBay bans this practice but they are just into reaming people and could care less about provenance.
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Re: Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby Racer-X » July 26th 2017, 8:39pm

Many years ago, counterfeit Nintendo GameBoy Advance cartridges were all over ebay. Tell-tale signs were a folded outer box and not sealed. The majority of people had no idea and stores like GameStop had get educated so they didn't take them in on trade.
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Re: Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby DocKlock » July 27th 2017, 5:33am

I've contacted eBay over counterfeit Spyderco as well as Surefire knives. Sometimes eBay takes it down, mostly not. If eBay does take it down the "seller" just pops up again under another "name" and the process starts all over again.
I ALWAYS avoid sellers with say, 10 sales and 2 are negative.
Also selling a $300 item for $30 is also a dead giveaway.
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Re: Spyderco Suing eBay Over Counterfeits

Postby kevco » July 27th 2017, 5:36am

And IF they do get fined xxx.xxx,xxx dollars they will probably just pass it on to the honest sellers in the form of higher "maintenance" fees.
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