Citizen Orca

Citizen Orca

Postby relaxer7 » November 7th 2017, 5:05am

I may have bought an Orca... :mrgreen:

But... with the small / notched lug set up does anyone have any ideas for alternative straps? Would really love the Ti Bracelet but they seem to be a rare as a rare thing (in the UK at least!).
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby AJC » November 7th 2017, 7:41am

I used to have one but never got around to getting the suppa adapters and a new strap or bracelet.

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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby relaxer7 » November 7th 2017, 9:26am

At the risk of sounding a dumbass, what are suppa adapters and where do I get em?
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby Hawk » November 7th 2017, 9:42am

I had to look it up myself but I'm guessing this is the ticket:

https://suppaparts.com/
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby relaxer7 » November 7th 2017, 9:46am

Coolio - but don't see anything for the Orca (BN0016...). Think I'm on the right tracks; somebody must do one ;)
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby foghorn » November 7th 2017, 9:47am

I thought the Suppas were just for Zillas.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby conjurer » November 7th 2017, 9:56am

foghorn wrote:I thought the Suppas were just for Zillas.


That's what I thought, too. I only saw an Orca in real life once, at a Macys. As I recall, it had fixed (and notched) lugs, which would make it pretty difficult to find alternatives, unless you get 'em from Citi.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby TemerityB » November 7th 2017, 10:02am

conjurer wrote:... unless you get 'em from Citi.


Could this not be accomplished? Citi ain't Invicta; I'd wager they'd have, well, parts.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby Hawk » November 7th 2017, 10:10am

foghorn wrote:I thought the Suppas were just for Zillas.


Very probable but Suppa's website is a combination of market-assigned "nicknames" and Citizen designations. The "Orca" is a BN-something or other and parts are available for BN-something or others.

Whether the Venn Chart of BN-somethings or other show an intersection of "Orca" and available "BN numbers" I have no idea.


That's one thing that used to grind on me with Seiko - Seiko doesn't acknowledge market assigned nicknames and if you call to discuss a "Tuna" they'll look at you like you have three heads. Same nonsense applies to Samurais, Turtles, Monsters and lord knows what all else. I was actually surprised when I learned that Seiko's Cocktail Time was indeed Seiko's Cocktail Time and not something some yutz at WUS invented in his spare time. And why isn't a "Baby Tuna" actually smaller than a "Tuna"?

/end mini-rant on whether an "Orca" is or isn't one of the things on Suppa's site - beats the flaming fuck out of me.

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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby conjurer » November 7th 2017, 10:16am

TemerityB wrote:
conjurer wrote:... unless you get 'em from Citi.


Could this not be accomplished? Citi ain't Invicta; I'd wager they'd have, well, parts.


I'd think so, but I also recall hearing that the Orca has been discontinued for some time. One would think, however, that Citi would have some spares sitting on a shelf--or perhaps ADs still stock the straps.

On the other hand, Seiko announced a few years back that they would stock spares for GS movements for only ten years, which blows.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby AJC » November 7th 2017, 10:20am

foghorn wrote:I thought the Suppas were just for Zillas.



They are. I'm an idiot.

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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby JAS1125 » November 7th 2017, 3:57pm

conjurer wrote:
TemerityB wrote:
conjurer wrote:... unless you get 'em from Citi.


Could this not be accomplished? Citi ain't Invicta; I'd wager they'd have, well, parts.


I'd think so, but I also recall hearing that the Orca has been discontinued for some time. One would think, however, that Citi would have some spares sitting on a shelf--or perhaps ADs still stock the straps.

On the other hand, Seiko announced a few years back that they would stock spares for GS movements for only ten years, which blows.


The apparent lack of replacement straps is what prompted me to sell mine....and I regret doing so
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby Racer-X » November 7th 2017, 4:08pm

I don't think there is more aptly nick-named watch than the Orca. Always like that one.

I seem to remember a "Walt" adapter but can't find anything. This guy filed down a Watchadoo, but not sure I dig the result.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/watchadoo-citizen-orca-387323.html

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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby relaxer7 » November 8th 2017, 8:00am

Received an interesting reply from Citizen today.... seems the bracelet and rubber version have different cases and an Orca with rubber won't accept a bracelet! What kind of friggin logic is that?! What ballbags :x

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Good Afternoon,

Thank you for your enquiry.

If you have purchased BN0016-55L then this model comes with a bracelet and will not carry a strap

Model number BN0016-04L comes with a rubber strap and will not carry a bracelet

These model watches have different case numbers so straps and bracelets made by Citizen will only be compatible with the type of band that they were manufactured with.

Bracelet part number 59-S02374 is in stock and will cost £110.40, but if you have the strap model, this bracelet will not fit

Hope this helps

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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby conjurer » November 8th 2017, 9:49am

Unfortunately, Mr. 7, this is the price you pay when you buy a watch with an integrated bracelet and/or notched lug setup. Citizen, like most other watch companies, doesn't make watches for the WIS community; they make them for everybody else in the world, and that's why they're the biggest watchmaking company. There's probably a fine business reason for changing the cases between the strap and bracelet models, although they probably won't tell you what it is.

If I'm interested in a watch with a bespoke lug design (like the Seiko Transocean), the only way I'd buy it is if it's on a bracelet, which will probably last the life of the watch, versus a strap, which probably won't.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby foghorn » November 8th 2017, 9:56am

Integrated bracelets are worse than non quick set dates.

While the Bulova Moon watch doesn't have an integrated bracelet it has the lug holes in different places on the bracelet model vs. the strap model, making it a pain (but not impossible) to replace the bracelet with a strap.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby conjurer » November 8th 2017, 10:25am

foghorn wrote:Integrated bracelets are worse than non quick set dates.

While the Bulova Moon watch doesn't have an integrated bracelet it has the lug holes in different places on the bracelet model vs. the strap model, making it a pain (but not impossible) to replace the bracelet with a strap.


I'm going to find a Russian watch with an integrated bracelet and send it to you for Christmas, you dreary fowl.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby Mortuus » November 8th 2017, 10:38am

Whoops! When I saw the title of the thread, I thought it was about either Ted Kennedy, AKA the "Cape Cod Orca," or America's [former] daytime TV goddess ( :roll: ), "Orca Winfrey." Sorry 'bout dat, fellers...Olde Morte let you's down, he did...
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby Mortuus » November 8th 2017, 10:46am

conjurer wrote:
foghorn wrote:Integrated bracelets are worse than non quick set dates.

While the Bulova Moon watch doesn't have an integrated bracelet it has the lug holes in different places on the bracelet model vs. the strap model, making it a pain (but not impossible) to replace the bracelet with a strap.


I'm going to find a Russian watch with an integrated bracelet and send it to you for Christmas, you dreary fowl.

"Dreary fowl?" Jeebus, Conj! Knock it off! That's our Foggy you're talking about there...ur, wait... Umm, nevermind...you were talking about our Foggy... :oops:
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby TemerityB » November 8th 2017, 12:16pm

foghorn wrote:Integrated bracelets are worse than non quick set dates.


Ugh. Have a few, too. Blech.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby conjurer » November 8th 2017, 2:29pm

TemerityB wrote:
foghorn wrote:Integrated bracelets are worse than non quick set dates.


Ugh. Have a few, too. Blech.


Hey, let's not get nutz!:

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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby bedlam » November 8th 2017, 4:35pm

conjurer wrote:
TemerityB wrote:
foghorn wrote:Integrated bracelets are worse than non quick set dates.


Ugh. Have a few, too. Blech.


Hey, let's not get nutz!:

Sorry conj. The integrated bracelet is the reason I don't already have the Transocean. Its a stunning watch with that terrible flaw. If I can't put a dive strap or NATO on it I can't dive with it.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby conjurer » November 8th 2017, 5:00pm

bedlam wrote:
conjurer wrote:
TemerityB wrote:
foghorn wrote:Integrated bracelets are worse than non quick set dates.


Ugh. Have a few, too. Blech.


Hey, let's not get nutz!:

Sorry conj. The integrated bracelet is the reason I don't already have the Transocean. Its a stunning watch with that terrible flaw. If I can't put a dive strap or NATO on it I can't dive with it.


I'd rather put my sister in a whorehouse than a Transocean on a NATO!! Which, as Carl says, you can't, anyway.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby relaxer7 » November 9th 2017, 3:32am

Screw it. Like my weekend outfit, I'm gonna embrace rubber.
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Re: Citizen Orca

Postby codguy » November 9th 2017, 5:13am

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