The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby bedlam » December 12th 2017, 4:50pm

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bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.

I think it's the yin to Omega's yang. Rolex didn't have to pay to get its products on the screen...

That's an assumption, its more likely that the problem was that they did have to pay. As movie makers realised there was a business in product placement they started to charge for stuff to be shown on screen. We don't know why Rolex dropped away, but as the process started to look like paid advertising to them it might have hit up against other corporate advertising priorities and they let it go. We don't know why they stopped but having to pay is in fact a leading contender.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Pubbie » December 12th 2017, 5:46pm

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Pubbie wrote:
bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.

I think it's the yin to Omega's yang. Rolex didn't have to pay to get its products on the screen...

That's an assumption, its more likely that the problem was that they did have to pay. As movie makers realised there was a business in product placement they started to charge for stuff to be shown on screen. We don't know why Rolex dropped away, but as the process started to look like paid advertising to them it might have hit up against other corporate advertising priorities and they let it go. We don't know why they stopped but having to pay is in fact a leading contender.

It is an assumption, but it's kind of the same point - Rolex didn't want to pay, and Swatch did. When Goldeneye came around, product placement was the new thing (BMW Z3! Perrier!) and Hayek was waiting in the wings with public money backing and a marketing strategy. For me, having to pay to become top dog carries with it a whiff of the... desperate. But then again, Omega is now selling eight-grand dive watches (out of sale season anyway) and Rolex is paying Federer to put a DJ after the match, so they're both at it now.

Fair play, the competition has given us new Submariners which are no tougher than an old one, but certainly feel the part. And now all consumers pay so much more. Not sure that's progress, but then I speak with the bias of someone who can't play :3
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby MKTheVintageBloke » December 12th 2017, 7:53pm

conjurer wrote:Ian Fleming was only a cut or two above Clive Cussler. John Le Carre could wipe the floor with both of 'em, and then sodomise their arses with cooking fat, Dirtbox-style.

I did enjoy the film based on Le Carre's book, Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. But that's that. Haven't quite had the opportunity to appreciate Le Carre's writing. I have read the first few pages of The Constant Gardener, and it was just this exact sort of boring that makes me put the kibosh on reading any more books from a particular author. Long story short, it felt as if it was written by the Jane Austen of spy thriller writers. And I just happen to share Mark Twain's attitude towards Austen.

I agree about Cussler being a rubbish writer. I mean, he has a vivid imagination, so vivid that I'd like to know what is he smoking, but his writing style sucks flaccid lingam.

I've read one book by Fleming, and it had a similar effect on me as books by Clancy and Ludlum - I know it isn't ambitious literature, kind of a chewing gum for the eyes, really, but it is good enough to kill time on a flight or on the train. When boredom is the only alternative to reading, these books usually have me beyond hooked - it would probably take Scarlett Johansson offering to give me a blowjob to distract me from reading.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby biglove » December 12th 2017, 9:29pm

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biglove wrote:Craig is the best thing to happen to the series since the end of the Connery era.

Sorry, Russ but Brosnan and Dalton damn near killed the franchise for me.


No worries Travis, I was referring the awesome Goldeneye Nintendo 64 video game that I played for many hours back in the day.


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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby TemerityB » December 12th 2017, 11:12pm

Hey, now: The Fleming series, yeah, sure - but no spy books have never had an impact on me like the paperback Man From U.N.C.L.E. book series; someone snuck one into the sixth grade library, and it was the first time I ever read about a beautiful, naked woman in incredible, reverential tones.

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