The Many Watches of James Bond 007

The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Racer-X » December 11th 2017, 5:34pm

Did not expect this many Seikos and an Orfina?
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby conjurer » December 11th 2017, 5:56pm

Roger Moore was really a fucking awful Bond. By the end of his tenure, the producers had to have a stuntman walk across the set for him.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby artman » December 11th 2017, 7:40pm

Cool post. Thanks!
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby smellody » December 11th 2017, 7:52pm

Some of those subs labeled as 5513s are really 6538s. Roger was not a gay.
   
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby bedlam » December 11th 2017, 8:10pm

Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby conjurer » December 11th 2017, 8:15pm

bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.


Plus the fact that, you know, James Bond isn't a real person.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Falstaff » December 11th 2017, 8:19pm

bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.



Rolex is the only watch the literary Bond ever wore. Read the books - screw the movies.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby smellody » December 11th 2017, 8:27pm

Rolex and Bond are king. Bond is real. So is Rolex.
   
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby conjurer » December 11th 2017, 8:35pm

Ian Fleming was only a cut or two above Clive Cussler. John Le Carre could wipe the floor with both of 'em, and then sodomise their arses with cooking fat, Dirtbox-style.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby smellody » December 11th 2017, 8:39pm

Gawd dam it Conj. That just is not true.
   
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Falstaff » December 11th 2017, 9:02pm

conjurer wrote:Ian Fleming was only a cut or two above Clive Cussler. John Le Carre could wipe the floor with both of 'em, and then sodomise their arses with cooking fat, Dirtbox-style.



Fleming and Le Carre are apples and oranges. Cussler however, is merely a fruit.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Racer-X » December 11th 2017, 9:14pm

The only Jame Bond thing that ever mattered to me.

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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby bedlam » December 11th 2017, 9:54pm

Falstaff wrote:
bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.

Rolex is the only watch the literary Bond ever wore. Read the books - screw the movies.

I tried reading Fleming but couldn't make it through. The books were junk. The movies were decent early on, became junk too, then improved a fair bit with Daniel Craig.

None of it approaches anything like the French Connection or Tailor of Panama though.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby conjurer » December 11th 2017, 11:21pm

bedlam wrote:
Falstaff wrote:
bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.

Rolex is the only watch the literary Bond ever wore. Read the books - screw the movies.

I tried reading Fleming but couldn't make it through. The books were junk. The movies were decent early on, became junk too, then improved a fair bit with Daniel Craig.

None of it approaches anything like the French Connection or Tailor of Panama though.


Are you talking books or movies, Carl? Because Robin Moore wrote The French Connection.

Anyway, regarding the movies. The first few were great, up to Goldfinger. Alas, things started slipping after that, with the movies becoming more campy and Bond relying on more and more dumb gadgets. Sean Connery wanted out, to expand his career--which isn't saying much, since he starred in 1974's Zardoz, easily one of the worst pieces of shit ever filmed--and after that they enlisted Roger Moore, who was too old, too urbane, and too wooden to play Bond. With Daniel Craig taking the role in the last few movies, they've somewhat improved.

Regarding the James Bond books: I wouldn't go as far as Carl did to call them junk, but they certainly weren't particularly well written. Fleming was, at best, a workmanlike writer. In this he was similar to his fellow Brit, Nevil Shute, who was a bestselling author at about the same time as Fleming. The difference between the two was that Shute wrote, generally, about average people faced with terribly unaverage events. Reading Casino Royale or Diamonds Are Forever can be an enjoyable way to pass a winter's afternoon; Reading On The Beach can fuck up your entire life.

John Le Carre was the anti-Fleming. The Spy Who Came In From The Cold was published in 1963, a year or so before Fleming's death. An intricately plotted spy thriller, it also showcased Le Carre's central theme, of the individual, wanting to do the right thing, caught up in politics and espionage. There are no Pussy Galore's in Le Carre's books. As Alec Leamas said in this first great book:

“What do you think spies are: priests, saints, and martyrs? They’re a squalid procession of vain fools, traitors too, yes; pansies, sadists, and drunkards, people who play cowboys and Indians to brighten their rotten lives. Do you think they sit like monks in London balancing the rights and wrongs? I’d have killed Mundt if I could, I hate his guts; but not now. It so happens that they need him. They need him so that the great moronic mass that you admire can sleep soundly in their beds at night. They need him for the safety of ordinary, crummy people like you and me.”
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby bedlam » December 12th 2017, 2:45am

conjurer wrote:
bedlam wrote:
Falstaff wrote:
bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.

Rolex is the only watch the literary Bond ever wore. Read the books - screw the movies.

I tried reading Fleming but couldn't make it through. The books were junk. The movies were decent early on, became junk too, then improved a fair bit with Daniel Craig.

None of it approaches anything like the French Connection or Tailor of Panama though.

Are you talking books or movies, Carl? Because Robin Moore wrote The French Connection.

Talking about decent spy novels. Fleming certainly ain't it. Geez, I'd put the Bourne novels ahead of Bond (well the Ludlam ones at least)
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Pubbie » December 12th 2017, 4:07am

bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.

I think it's the yin to Omega's yang. Rolex didn't have to pay to get its products on the screen; indeed, the screen time was often shared with other watches. Omega had to pay millions to force its product on you, and I have no doubt they would sue the mighty fuck out of the studio if they had the temerity to use any non-SwatchCo product. I know which business model I prefer!
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Pubbie » December 12th 2017, 4:11am

conjurer wrote:
bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.


Plus the fact that, you know, James Bond isn't a real person.

Craig wears Omeega when he's on screen, takin' the Swatchco dime. Back in the real world, he wears a vintage Rolex - or did, until someone from Marketing saw it, and handed over some more of your cash 8-)
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby JAS1125 » December 12th 2017, 6:29am

conjurer wrote: Reading Casino Royale or Diamonds Are Forever can be an enjoyable way to pass a winter's afternoon;


That's how I approached Fleming...read most of them and some of the subsequent authors who took up the mantle...Benson, Garnder.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Falstaff » December 12th 2017, 8:24am

conjurer wrote:
bedlam wrote:
Falstaff wrote:
bedlam wrote:Its amazing how much some Sub owners (particularly TZ-UKers) still make a big deal about the Bond connection, yet he hasn't worn a Rolex in nearly 30 years.

Rolex is the only watch the literary Bond ever wore. Read the books - screw the movies.

I tried reading Fleming but couldn't make it through. The books were junk. The movies were decent early on, became junk too, then improved a fair bit with Daniel Craig.

None of it approaches anything like the French Connection or Tailor of Panama though.


Are you talking books or movies, Carl? Because Robin Moore wrote The French Connection.

Anyway, regarding the movies. The first few were great, up to Goldfinger. Alas, things started slipping after that, with the movies becoming more campy and Bond relying on more and more dumb gadgets. Sean Connery wanted out, to expand his career--which isn't saying much, since he starred in 1974's Zardoz, easily one of the worst pieces of shit ever filmed--and after that they enlisted Roger Moore, who was too old, too urbane, and too wooden to play Bond. With Daniel Craig taking the role in the last few movies, they've somewhat improved.

Regarding the James Bond books: I wouldn't go as far as Carl did to call them junk, but they certainly weren't particularly well written. Fleming was, at best, a workmanlike writer. In this he was similar to his fellow Brit, Nevil Shute, who was a bestselling author at about the same time as Fleming. The difference between the two was that Shute wrote, generally, about average people faced with terribly unaverage events. Reading Casino Royale or Diamonds Are Forever can be an enjoyable way to pass a winter's afternoon; Reading On The Beach can fuck up your entire life.

John Le Carre was the anti-Fleming. The Spy Who Came In From The Cold was published in 1963, a year or so before Fleming's death. An intricately plotted spy thriller, it also showcased Le Carre's central theme, of the individual, wanting to do the right thing, caught up in politics and espionage. There are no Pussy Galore's in Le Carre's books. As Alec Leamas said in this first great book:

“What do you think spies are: priests, saints, and martyrs? They’re a squalid procession of vain fools, traitors too, yes; pansies, sadists, and drunkards, people who play cowboys and Indians to brighten their rotten lives. Do you think they sit like monks in London balancing the rights and wrongs? I’d have killed Mundt if I could, I hate his guts; but not now. It so happens that they need him. They need him so that the great moronic mass that you admire can sleep soundly in their beds at night. They need him for the safety of ordinary, crummy people like you and me.”




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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby bobbee » December 12th 2017, 11:35am

I want a Moeris Bond watch, rarer than any of the on screen watches.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby SynMike » December 12th 2017, 2:01pm

All entertaining info to me. Thanks.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Falstaff » December 12th 2017, 2:11pm

conjurer wrote:Ian Fleming was only a cut or two above Clive Cussler. John Le Carre could wipe the floor with both of 'em, and then sodomise their arses with cooking fat, Dirtbox-style.




And lest we forget those other literary heroes cut from the same cloth as Cmdr. Bond - Dornford Yates Chandos, Sapper's Bulldog Drummond and John Buchan's Richard Hannay.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby bobbee » December 12th 2017, 3:42pm

Fucking Dornford Yates, the pretentious wanker!
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby biglove » December 12th 2017, 4:37pm

Craig is the best thing to happen to the series since the end of the Connery era.

Sorry, Russ but Brosnan and Dalton damn near killed the franchise for me.
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Re: The Many Watches of James Bond 007

Postby Racer-X » December 12th 2017, 4:48pm

biglove wrote:Craig is the best thing to happen to the series since the end of the Connery era.

Sorry, Russ but Brosnan and Dalton damn near killed the franchise for me.


No worries Travis, I was referring the awesome Goldeneye Nintendo 64 video game that I played for many hours back in the day.
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